CWK exchange quest's

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    I've been at this for a few weeks now, turning in on multiple characters, the most frustrating thing in the world is having to deal with a 24 hour wait period to turn in badges, at the rate that the badges drop which I'snt very frequent, it takes about a little over an hour to collect 50, and i haven gotten anything but mesos or 60% after 15 days of farming and turning in on more than one character, so its my suggestion that you guys should consider removing this 24 hour wait period for this, I've done some research and found that you are using EMS patch notes for this. Eventually they removed this *24 hour wait period* because it was getting a little ridiculous to turn in a set of badges and not get squat, then be forced to wait another 24 hours to not get squat, regardless, taos will be easier to obtain through the pq and this will leave the maps barren as no one wants to waste as much time as i did farming these badges if they have to wait 24 hours to turn them in, so either take away the 24 hour wait period for badge turn in as this is an etc exchange quest and lower the turn in rate for taos, or put a 24 hour wait period on the orbis exchange quests aswell so no one will farm the mobs and turn in the etc items as they have to wait 24 hours to do so.

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    now im forced to drop to make room....
     

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    Why not put the wish tickets on an alt/mule instead of dropping the badges? o_O
     
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    i dont have any alt mules made atm besides what im using, and i cant make any new chars >.>
     
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    give them to me, i need'em
     
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    We would like to see further feedback on how rewarding the quest is from players before making any changes. It may be that you have just been unlucky to not get a useful or valuable reward, or it could possibly be that the rewards from the type of exchange you have been doing are not that great anyway. Each exchange offers some variation in the rewards so it may be worth trying some of the others. It also may be a great idea if somebody were to create a guide/list of rewards that other players could help contribute to.

    I would also like to note that this exchange quest is not supposed to be a reliable source for obtaining the Taos - If those are the only items you are interested in obtaining. Taos should be one of the rarest available rewards from this exchange quest.

    Additionally, Wish Tickets should now stack to 500, hopefully that helps with your inventory issue.
     
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    bbb.hidden-street already has an accurrate list of rewards for this exchange quest
     
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    Their list is not complete and also not entirely accurate.
     
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    i completely agree with this, my only issue and alot of other players aswell will probably have the same issue im having with the 24 hour wait period, as for the rewards guide its the EMS cwk exchange guide thats the most accurate one, but all in all, it doesnt make any type of sense to have a 24 hour wait period to turn in etc items, thats just a little bit excessive. ive done some digging of my own through patch notes to find that there was indeed a 24 hour wait period, but was removed due to players not farming the maps because of this, so after awhile it was eventually removed and the rate for getting certain taos was made lowernd harder to obtain. but the player could farm as much as they wanted and turn in all the badges at once instead of it taking up etc space, i thank you and the dev team for your support and in making the wish tickets stack to 500, im sure this has made alot of players happier, i would still consider maybe just mentioning the 24 hour period with your co workers/owner to maybe either shorten it down to 1 hour wait time or take it off completely,

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    Its kind of unreasonable to wait 24 hours to hand in etc dont you think guys? I mean this is something thats determined by luck. It would probably already make it a turn off to farm them anyway assuming that most people would rather get them by cwkpqing instead. Maybe a reduce in time should be established to meet in the middle?
     
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    By 'them' I presume you mean the Taos. And that is the entire point of it, we want the great majority of the Taos coming from CWKPQ and not from this easy exchange quest. I think you are just looking at this exchange quest the wrong way, it's simply meant to just be a small bonus that you get from handing in extra ETC's you have, rather than a reliable source to obtain Taos which should not be obtainable easily.
     
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    If having the great majority of Taos come from the PQ was your intention @Matt then im also happy for it since id love to see a sub-community revolve around cwkpq . Just wanted to show a bit of support for my friend here who's been farming for quite some time now. Another question we had among each other was the drop rate in the bonus stage would it be possible to get heads up on that? ~f2
     
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    For the record, this quest isnt easy, ive been at it for a long time now to obtain these items, and what am i to do when i run out of room? fill up another mule? im not doing this just for taos, there are a list of other things i would like to obtain aswell, but a 24 hour wait timer is excessive and its going to take me a year get to my goal at this rate which isnt something im looking forward to, but im stubborn enough to want to do it, but this timer is just pure torture. week 3 now and im almost full.
     
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    I was saying the quest was easy in comparison to CWKPQ. Let's be honest, reducing the exchange to 12 hours instead of 24 is not going to make much of a difference, the exchange will still seem like a massive pain to those that are desperate to reap from the randomised rewards. But if we were to remove the timer and let you hand in your entire inventory full of ETC's you'd likely get every single item that's available from the NPC within minutes. It would cause the unique items that are available from the exchange to lose their value very quickly and would likely also have a detrimental affect on CWKPQ which I don't think anyone wants. Like I've said before, the whole point of this exchange is to get a random reward as a bonus for collecting some ETC's and it should not become a reliable source to obtain the items that are available from it.
     
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    most of the items are only obtainable through the exchange unless you are going to put them in the bonus on the drop list, and in all honesty having a 24 hour wait timer to turn in etc's is just dumb, this is just going to be more of a pain in the future for you guys when the server starts getting repopulated and you get more players complaining about the same issue im having.
    The rewards from this exchange quest are pretty bunk, there are only maybe 6 items at max on that drop table that are worth anything at all, the equips are not good except for the claw and maybe the dagger, but you guys making it next to impossible to obtain anything from this is just going to make players not put this content to good use or not use it all all because of this, its just a fact.

    That being said I'm forced to do this because I need to get a claw that I so desperately need to make and the hoops I have to jump through for it are just plain unfair compared to other people being able to just get their equips from mobs, at this rate I'm never going to be able to do it, nor will any other player in the future if they choose to do so.

    now what I need to do is obtain a ravens claw at random from the exchange, I need to take that with a tao and some etc items to Fiona for item creation, to make it dex-less, and hope I get a perfect roll on it, I don't think the amount of shit *excuse my frustration* that i have to go through in hopes to get what I need at this point is fair when other players can just spam craft their weapons if they so choose to.

    having this 24 hour wait period removed is not going to damage cwkpq at all, players are still going to do it because lots of them would rather do that sort of thing than do what I'm doing,its literally not my fault I'm taking advantage of this opportunity right now, it literally took me 3 full weeks to get where I am at currently, and players like myself and others should be granted that option instead of being shoehorned into what goes against the game mechanic. so if I want to farm and other players wanted to do so as well while other players are doing cwkpq we should meet in the middle and be able to play the game like it was meant to be played. GMS didn't have a 24 hour wait timer and you only had to turn in 1 badge. and obtaining these equips wasn't hard at all, certain things were just made harder to obtain through it, and I'm sure it wouldn't be impossible to code in a lower % rate for certain items so they are made to be harder to obtain. this timer is just completely unreasonable and doesn't need to be apart of the game. Which is why all main sources of Maplestory in each country did not have this timer implemented, or they did and it was removed.

    eventually when people come back they are gonna do the same thing I'm doing and think the same way I'm thinking, its only a matter of time. with all this being said no one is going to use this content if its going to be like this, I'm not the only player right now to think so either. until then I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing in hopes maybe a year from now at this going rate we are at ill be able to actually get anything done to obtain this weapon.

    Thank you to the dev team for all your hard work, and keeping this game alive for me.

    Hardcore farmer
     
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    Okay now that I understand what your goal is regarding the exchange, you'll probably want to know that the equips and upgraded equips at Fiona will be average stats, so you won't be doing any re-rolling (if you continue to go for the claw at all). The chance to get the Raven's Claw is already not too low, and it's also been available from Gachapon since forever so you could also likely buy one from somebody if you can't get it from the exchange - Although I'd expect it wouldn't take more than a couple weeks at the current rate for you to finally get one, but it is all down to luck. As for getting Taos from the exchange, they are the rarest of the rewards and you'll be lucky to get one from the exchange any time soon, instead you'll likely just want to wait for CWKPQ as they will be more common there.

    The arguments you have presented in the post are not convincing. You also knew from the beginning of your 3 weeks of farming the ETC's that there was a once per 24 hour limit on the exchange, it's not like we have changed it and caused your farming to be a waste of time. You have also argued in the past that things should be nostalgic and GMS-like in this previous thread you made about the Night Raven's Claw, but now you would prefer things to be like GMS v146 when they removed the exchange cooldown? By this time GMS already had many much better items in the game and the exchange was pretty much pointless (This is probably the reason for them removed the cooldown), here on MapleRoyals we do not have as many better items, so there is still some value in the exchange rewards.
     
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    yeah the fact that I have to get a ravens claw, combine it with tao and other ingredients to make it a night ravens claw and hope for its highest obtainable stat which should be 51 attack, seems to be next to impossible with a 24 hour wait period, or to obtain any other type of equip from it, yes i did know that there was a 24 hour wait period before I started farming because like I said before I have no choice if I continue on my build path that I want to go for because you guys are making it impossible. they removed the 24 hour cooldown sooner than v.146

    That being said I don't think its fair at all with the drop tables from the exchange quest and PQ being totally different besides being able to obtain taos on both and not equipment, I also think its quite unfair that you can do the PQ as much as you want over and over again, but I'm left in the dust waiting 24 hours each day to be able to obtain what I want, I have no unfair advantage at all in this scenario, if anything the tables have turned and whoever does the PQ has the unfair advantage compared to the person who has been farming badges and that takes longer to collect 50 badges for turn in than it does to complete a PQ you can do as much as you want. in all honesty no one is going to do the exchange because of this besides the people like myself that need to.

    http://bbb.hidden-street.net/exchange-quest-crimsonwood

    theres abit of proof right there, you can do this quest as many times as you like

    there's no logic in this 24 hour wait period.
     
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    It is that hard to loosen up, huh?

    I saved a considerable amount of gachapon tickets just for the sake of getting a (not even perfect) crushed skull, but that was in vain, spent all my tickets on perion and simply got nothing, being a paladin is already bad enough, being a BW user is even worse, and you guys make it almost, if not impossible to get our so needed endgame weapon, i'd understand if that happened only with the item with godly stats, but no, crushed skull is pretty rare compared to other endgame items such as dragon sleeve (which is considearably easy to obtain if on base stats). I thought with the cwk exchange quests it'd be a big help but it turned out it'll be a big pain in the ass like it always have been. It's a shame you guys just don't wanna let it go and make some minor changes here and there.
     
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    You did not fully read my post... I've stated that the upgrades are average, so won't be affected by the godly system. CWKPQ cannot be done over and over again as it has a twice per day limit. People will still do the exchange because places such as Windraiders are still a decent place to grind for EXP, and "You can do this quest as many times as you like" does not mean that there is no time limit between exchanges. I've stated the logic for the 24 hour wait period already.

    At this time... Yes. Like I've already mentioned in this thread we would like to wait at least til CWKPQ is released before considering changing anything related to the CWK exchange quest.
     
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