[Suggestion] Prioritize Scrolling

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Should scrolling be prioritized given the benefits and costs?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Sharpenel
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    The current priority list as stated by Matt is:

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/new-source-has-killed-islanding.89112/#post-471031

    ISSUE
    I believe scrolls (and scrolling) to be an integral part of Maplestory and having it pushed so far down the priority list is a problem. With the absence of scrolling, many players are limited to sub-par clean gear or purchasing a limited amount of pre-scrolled equipment, often overpaying due to competition with other buyers. With the current priority list scrolling items looks to be quite far away, considering the fact that the Cash Shop is the most difficult and time consuming feature to fix.

    PROPOSAL
    I propose that scrolling be bumped up the prioirty list, being fixed after/alongside the DC'ing issues and before the Cash Shop fix.

    IMPLEMENTATION
    Matt himself has said that scrolling is not a difficult fix, and that they have not worked on fixing scrolls at all yet. This leads me to believe that it would be a relatively quick and easy fix, considering the fact that they have the BMS source code to reference.

    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/new-source-has-killed-islanding.89112/#post-471031

    BENEFITS
    The benefits of introducing scrolling sooner, rather than later would be:

    1) Reintroduction of a core component of the game

    2) Greater market activity. With working scrolls, there will be a greater incentive to trade and hunt for scrolls and clean gear to use the scrolls on. This will increase market activity, player interaction and thus generate a more active player base

    3) Greater accessibility to better gear, instead of being limited to clear gear or purchasing a limited stock of pre-scrolled gear. This will allow players to progress and gain a greater feeling of accomplishment in the game

    4) Earlier introduction of scrolling allows players to find and test any potential bugs that may be addressed by the staff and fixed overtime. It allows the players to help work alongside the staff by locating and fixing bugs, bringing the server another step closer to 100% functionality

    5) More stable economy. Will allow the gradual flow of scrolls out of the market (by being used) and scrolled items into the market. Instead of a giant flood that will be supplemented by the release of the cash shop and gacha.


    COSTS
    1) Time. Working on fixing scroll earlier would push back the fixing of other issues (namely the Cash Shop). Although as hinted by Matt's statement, scrolling should not take away too much development time.

    2) Lost income for the server. Delaying the cash shop by prioritizing scrolling would delay any income received from donations

    CONCLUSION
    All in all, I would like to see scrolling fixed alongside/after the DC'ing issues and before the cash shop. It will take away minimal development time from the Cash Shop and reintroduce a core component of the game. This will increase overall player satisfaction and promote a more active player base.

    Please feel free to address any benefits or costs I may have missed
     
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    Yeah i kinda want scrolling since the best part about this game is blowing up items.
     
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    It really depends how far they with developing the cash shop; if it is nearly done, it makes more sense to finish the cash shop first. If they are a long way away, then I'm in support of this idea.
     
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    Cash shop is also income for the server. Without income, there is no server to scroll things on.
     
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    Haven't thought of that, added it to the cost section
     
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    warriors demand mounts. we walk slow with our heavy metal plated armors
     
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    If we were given insight as to how far the cash shop actually is (in days) and how long scrolling would take to fix (in days), it would make the decision easier. But estimations haven't helped since the new source. I believe the staff will make the best decision for the server
     
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    I voted no at first but then I thought about it...If they were to fix scrolling first and further delay cash shop, it would reduce the amount of scrolls in the system, readying the server for the cash shop to be open and hundreds of people to drop crazy amounts of NX(Gacha). While fixing cash shop first generates income for the server, the server won't make it if the economy gets destroyed. #FixScrolling
     
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    Great point. Added as a benefit
     
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    scrolling ftw plz need to gamble k thanx bye
     
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    I definitely agree with Sharpenel and strongly think the staff should fix scrolling alongside the dcing issue:

    - As Matt said, scrolling is not too difficult to fix hence it will not take too much of Kevin's time.
    - Scrolling is no doubt a core component of Maple. It is a super fun, spontaneous and gambling part of the game.
    - Without scrolling, many players have to bear with either clean equipment or badly scrolled equipment (including me).
    - Scrolls are stacking up in most active players' inventory, they should be used instead of sitting there like useless bunches of Use items. Also the longer they are being stacked up, the bigger effect this will have on Royals economy.

    Don't you miss that feeling? That success sound? Vote yes!
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    P/S: Thank you Sharpenel for creating this thread. You have spoken for many of us :)
     
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    I also strongly agree with Sharpenel. I think that having scrolling so low on the priority list is a mistake, especially with the relatively small amount of time it would take to fix it and the large impact it would have on the Royals economy. I'm interested to see what the staff has to say.
     
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    To me personally, scrolling is the most important thing in the game (if you don't count the FM in general which is an absolute must to have to sell your scrolled items). Yeah you got me right, the MOST important thing. Without it, the game looks...boring.
    I used to make LOTS of money this way in GMS and this is one of the main reasons I came back to royals after I quit GMS in 2008. I missed the "gamble" part of Maplestory.

    Cash shop is still more important though. Empty FM is not a good thing. So I think it should be cash shop first, then scrolling and then everything else.
     
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    I agree with the OP on this point.

    I need to use some 30% to free up some inventory space on my mule.

    Not all scrolls originate from Gachapon, I am hoarding 40 Gun Att 60% and a dozen Overall Int/DEX 60% from farming gobies and bone fishes.
     
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    While I agree that scrolls don't all originate from gachapon, there are hundreds of people that have XXXk NX, if not 1M+ NX. Mushroom shrine is one of the most popular gachapon spots;going here, you will most likely receive 90% scrolls. The sudden influx of scrolls from gachapon could make a lot of uncommon scrolls worthless
     
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    I agree it is very important aspect of the game, but hey I don't see it being more important than character creation. I mean don't be selfish, plenty of new players are in the waiting list for this feature to come out since three months ago and it was literally the last thing to be fixed.

    At least we are able to vote during this three months period, and not waiting with no benefits. Guess what, they are waiting with a completely idle state.
     
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    >New players
    >Can't scroll items
    >Clean equips until lv200

    See how wrong is this if scrolling is put after character creation?
     
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    New players wont scroll until a high level and until then scrolls would be fixed hopefully. It is not until level 200 as you are claiming ~f7.
     
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    Would you continue play in a server where you as a new player who can't scroll equipment against the rest of the original players who has +7/+10 to all equips?

    Yeah... see where I'm coming from now?

    edit: I like your optimism that scrolling would be fixed soon after character creation, but what's the harm in pushing scrolling BEFORE character creation if it's an easy fix? Better to get everything done before enabling character creation than leaving things still buggy with new players coming in, no?
     
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    Low level players also scroll, in fact, for some classes, it's very necessary. Dexless warriors for example need a dex overall (even if it's just 100% scrolled) in order to hit anything at low level.

    Scrolling should come before character creation/registration.
     
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