Future of MapleRoyals

"Joined: Sep 21, 2016"

You have been here for what, half a year ? it is clear to me that you are "new" member since you cant see how the entire community wants the old source back? Yes we have the social justice warriors that want's this new source to work but from what i see its about 15-20% of the playerbase? It is clear what the players want and your reply just show's that you are just as blind as the people calling the shot's on royals

Do you see how the decisions they have taken so far have left with the game with an active playerbase with under a 100 people, looking at how it used to be 1000+ ?

This is clearly wrong? Pretty much the entire GM staff have quit or moved to different servers, does this look like a staff that came to an agreement, or an admin team that decided what to do with the server even tho the gm's was against it?

This is true, but i would rather have an open minded leader compared to the dictatorship that Royals is.

 

Have a look at this poll. The majority does not want to roll back to the old source.
Also what does any of this have to do with social justice?

 

Go make a new poll then, nothing is stopping you.

 

@William maybe im also a "new" player, dont know fuck all like you do but i do not see how matt "just shut us down" he explained his reasons, and i think you are just spreading hate here

 

As someone who have farmed THOUSANDS of mostly INT/GFA scrolls during the new source, I personally don't mind this rollback. I have joined less than 2 weeks before the new source so if there is a rollback, I will pretty much start from scratch again, unlike the veteran players who will lose heartstoppers and some levels at worst.
But I don't mind that as long as the server will be great again as I remember it when I have just joined - active FM, 1000+ players online, good and stable economy...It was the real nostalgic Maplestory I remember playing 10 years ago. Nothing I ever saw on other servers and I bet I will never see.

As much as I think the new source is more stable than the old one (got lots of DC in the old source), playing with clean weapons/equips, not be able to scroll our own stuff and no FM/cash shop is pretty boring. All we can do now is farm items and even that is limited due to no char creation so sooner or later, we will be either forced to quit or somehow sell all these items even if we don't want to. And we can't really gach if the cash shop is back due to the same issue.

But I don't really mind all that, the worst thing here is - other servers are catching up. From 1st on gtop we are now 2nd, about to become 3rd. Things are not looking good, and that's coming from an optimistic person about the new source.


IMO, Matt and the GMs should make a vote. Not some random guy but the admins. We should solve the problem in a democratic way - the majority should decide if there will be rollback or not.
If there will be a rollback, the next new source update should not be started with just one guy who is working hard for all of us but can't handle the situation. There should be a big team of developers, one person should never handle such task. As an entrepreneur myself, the worst thing we can do is rush things. If you ain't ready to do something, don't do it.

 

The way the server is right now is infuriating don't get me wrong. But I can't lie, old source is only 'better' because it was less shit than this current shit we are in. I feel I am entitled to call the current state of things shit because I am not like the upper echelons of higher levels who can abuse the plentiful bosses to be killed, nor am I part of the group of people who's skills (especially main ones) are functioning. So I log in to the game to sell some teeth then come back to forum hoping for some fucking update.

That is dead as fuck man.

But I still prefer the trajectory we are on as opposed to old source. I guess if I could rewind time I'd farm more apples but that's about it. I think deep down for progression we all know that this was due to happen. The update, that is. Not the way it was handled. Personally I feel the continued downtime warrants any complains especially since it's been 2 and a half months now. And I still think it's a damn joke how a 24 hour extension turned into this. It's mad.

Oh and the fact that registration has been down for so long (I understand why though, but still) is only like server suicide in a way. But the one thing I keep remembering is that while all this is a result of administrative action, the server needs the most loyal of people to stick around. I'm not blaming anyone for walking. And I understand if they do.

But what are you guys trying to argue here? Old Source is not coming back nothing is being reverted. Or is your point different? Do you think the server will be wiped off the face of the Earth? I don't think it will, there is a bunch of new 83 servers that means that people are catching wind the the excitement of old Maple. As long as the admin team aren't retarded in that they don't do a series of stupid moves I don't see this server dying tbh. Just some old people leaving.. sad but you are not irreplaceable someone new will come take your spot lol.

 

I wouldn't say the 'entire' but there's a bit of truth to this. It feels like the feedback section is just there so our cries can be heard to cheer some sadistic admin up ;p

 

I guess I'm the only person who doesn't miss the hundreds upon thousands of threads about lost merchant items, dc's at zakum / horntail / krexel, zakum not warping people in, horntail preheads not spawning, horntail not dropping loot, stuck apples, engagement ring removals, mom & dad quest bugs, el nath pq never ending, event bosses dc issues and more.

I understand that people are upset with the new source's functionality, I'm a tad disappointed myself that some of the simple functionality is still missing, but I don't think that reverting to old source would be a positive thing to do.
It would definitely temporarily sooth people, but then the shitstorm of character issues and feedback threads comes in again. You think you're going to be sattisfied with the old source, but really you're not.
The complaining will forever continue as long as disconnection issues exist, as well as other gameplay ruining bugs.
That's just how I personally feel about this, where I'm at a stage where I feel like it would just be too late to revert now.

 

@William, @IceCloud, you guys are free to leave, no need to keep shitposting here.

EDIT: IceCloud deleted his posts.

 

Good things don't come easy. #Staytilltheend

 

I have lvled from 158-176 after jan 1st (100000anegos lol) and made over 4bil in new source (ign frozen yogo) and i still support the rollback, oldsource had more then 5 people playing and do we really think mapleroyals will get a lot of donations with 100 people playing most of which just play because they have already invested to much time. i think old source brings more donations then cashshop with a semi functional game. doesnt really put us in a donating mood when we cant horntail, scroll etc. dont need to name it. plus the hacker dropping mesos in fm and dm scroll glitcher abuser didnt help economy either.

 

Guys let's not resort to personal posts.

I am very very much curious tho, I have a serious question. I look at other servers and I look at what they have in place and it makes me think, surely they weren't 2-3 years in the planning the same way we were? How comes they have pretty much functional shit way ahead of us? What is going on here that is not being done there? Maybe a lot of it is backend and I will never understand since I don't know how to code, but, it really makes me wonder.

 

Why come this far just to roll back? Thats litterally going back on your word. Idk bout you guys but im willing to wait another 3 months if I have too.

 

these servers might be p2w

 

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION.

But yeah I think we should all just take the L on this one and go back to old source. The problems in that were trivial compared to the problems we have now.

 

I was going to write some lengthy post about just keeping the New Source, but there are too many aspects to consider. All I'll say, as a personal opinion, is that as much as all of us would love the Old Source back, I don't think it would magically bring back the glory days as much as people can hope and dream. It will bring back playability, but I think nothing can be the same even if you revert it back. At this point in time, the server has gone too far to go back, so I will be waiting for the major things to be fixed.

There comes a point where everyone has to evaluate whether this server is still worth staying or finding a new server or something else. Many have already checked out and gone to other servers never to come back, and that's fine. Others have completely stopped maplestory and found other things to do, and I commend you for that. If you are like me, I honestly don't mind the wait because I can do other things in the mean time and I'm not bothered by the current state of MapleRoyals. I will be on the server if I'm bored, and may stick with it to the end.

This isn't directed to you @Seductive Love, and just my own thoughts as a whole... I think everything has been talked about in the New Source already. It's time for each of us to decide whether or not to invest your time in MapleRoyals (at least for the time being).

 

Ok, let me be clear on my stance then:
It was a huge mistake to release the new source while it wasn't ready yet and the staff should have seen this coming. The game in its current state is definitely worse than the old source, and it sucks that the cash shop takes up nearly all priorities, but as Matt and others have explained, the cash shop is necessary to keep the game running.
With that said, if a rollback were to happen, some players that have quit may come back, however, many of the players that are currently active will quit since they lost months of progress. These are exactly the players that are most needed for the server. When the new source is completed, these people will stay and the old players will come back in which case you have a larger playerbase and a better source.

Have you seen the royals source code? If not, your claim about Kevin's programming skills is based on nothing but assumption.


I do agree on the transparency, we need more of that.
I also think the staff should listen more to the players. If an overwhelming majority of people agree on something, it shouldn't be ignored, even if Matt disagrees with it. I feel like sometimes the staff says that something is impossible due to a technical problem, but oftentimes I think they would be able to do it if they wanted it.

Are there any other facts you feel like I'm not admitting?

 

At this point, i can't say for the rest but for me, i just want to play Maplestory, old school. MapleRoyals has been a great server for that when i first joined. New source or old source? It doesn't really matter, i just want to play the game as how it was back in 2007, i'm sure many of the guys here would agree with me.

 

If you were to actually rollback to last year then alot of people would be furious since they would lose alot of progression.
Be glad that Kevin does stick around and keeps working on the new source instead of saying ''fuck it'' and leaving, give the man some respect for his hard work.
Last but not least use this time to play some other games because it's not worth it to go nuts over this stuff, just give it time because this will become a working server one day and people will be glad that they waited.
if you repley to me saying that i know nothing because i just joined ask Matty whats up

 

The server was 99.9% successfully ported to new source in terms of character progress, what makes you guys think it's impossible to revert back to old source without a rollback? data is data