Stop being little snitches

Alright, first off, OG Maple was a while ago, so i'm going to assume most people who read this are 18+. Alright, that makes us adults here.

I've noticed that people tend to report others on a whim when it comes to harassment or abuse. Sure, I get it:
Someone says something to you, and you feel offended so you go out of your way, to open up a window and upload a picture of whatever, then write a statement about it and ultimately nobody cares, but the offender may or may not be banned for a few days.

Here is what I don't understand. We all live in a world where vulgar things are said and done. I'm sure we all have friends or people in our lives that say things that don't even compare to what is said in-game. So when somebody online says something like "F u" or "Smd" do you REALLY need to go out of your way to do all of the above, when you could take 5 seconds and just block the offender? Perhaps you could even man up and stop taking things so seriously (realize that you are playing a game).

Honestly, if it's a call out on a public level (ex. Smega'ing "Person A" is a "____") or a personal attack on your personal life, I would support the report.

TLDR: It's the 21st century. We have things like the Jersey Shore and the Kardashians (aka cancer). So please stop being a (sn)itch, man up and report things that actually deserve to be reported. Not some kiddy thing like "He called me fat".

/end rant

*PS I know it's against rules to insult other players. Sometimes the anger gets the better of players. It will happen. It's human nature. Just chill out and click the block button rather than ban a person and risk losing a growing player base because someone said "Kage no f___ you" (you know who you are)*

 

You have a point, I guess... But give me one example of someone being banned for saying "fu" or "smd". Most reports are about way more offensive things to be honest.

 

This guy asked someone to leave map. The dude did leave, although he made a stupid comment about it. Was it something so offensive? No.

http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=9686

JaeYoung's drama case. COULD HAVE BEEN SOLVED WITH "BLOCK".
TBH, this dragged on because they kept feeding onto each other.

http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=9501

My own case. Joking in FM is srs business.

http://royals.ms/forum/showthread.php?t=9631

There are other stupid "abuse" reports like these. Calling it a night for now.

 

My problem with this post is, why do you care so much? If it doesn't concern you why care so much? People can spend all day reporting people and i could give a f**k less. And i know i will never get reported for harassment because most situations i just move on.
"Its very easy to turn the over cheek the other way, until it happens to you."
I get that but harassment is usually cause by both parties. If someone says stupid things and then you respond to stupid things, you are now part of the cause.
BTW. Firm believer in people can say what they want.

 

Being offended by a statement and being harassed are two different things!

If someone says, "[Insert Suggestive Racial Slur Here] are f**king taking our jobs and ruining my country," then it would perhaps be deemed offensive.

If someone continuously follows someone, and on more than one occasion says, "You god d**n [Insert Suggestive Racial Slur Here] get the f**k out of this server!" then it would be considered harassment.

More related to the post: I do not really enjoy the idea of reporting people for being offensive, but if they are harassing someone then in my book they should be permanently banned depending on the severity of the harassment.

If you are offended by an off remark, perhaps it would be better to whisper the person saying the remark that you are offended by it, and politely ask them not to say things of that nature. From there you would either be able to solve the problem or know if GM aid is necessary.

This has always been an ongoing debate on Royals, and I think it would be better if cases that aren't so extreme could be handled between players instead of GM involvement. Perhaps that is just me thinking that people can be mature though, who knows!

 

So you were reported for saying "smd" to somebody who felt uncomfortable with it. Their report was dismissed due to insufficient evidence. Instead of just shutting up about it, you make this thread implying they should not have reported you. The fact that you are trying to justify the fact that you said it, and argue that you should not have even be reported for it, in my opinion is even worse than the fact that you said it in the first place.

I don't know how well you knew the person who reported you. But you need to be careful with sexual "jokes", because you don't necessarily know the culture, upbringing, or history of the person (e.g. have they been sexually assaulted before).

Would you walk up to somebody you don't really know in the real world and say "smd" to them? I would certainly hope not.

 

How about stop harassing other people?

 

Well yes. I do similar things on occasion in real life, but due to rules I don't do that here. As the saying goes: "when in Rome...".

 

This isn't the sort of logic I'd expect from an adult. If you're an adult, you should know that actions have consequences. It is entirely your own fault that you got reported, so please don't try to point the finger at people who would rather not put up with being talked to in a crude and offensive manner. Also, if you're going to recommend that somebody blocks people they don't like, you should at least be aware that the blacklist doesn't work.

 

This is exactly what I am getting at. Most of us are mature players that can handle these issues on our own. In gMS a GM would not run up to you to save the day. You deal with these petty issues yourself and come to a solution that resolves the conflict between both parties (whether it is forced via block or through a negotiation, who knows/cares).

I'm seeing threads where a level 20-50 newcomer is getting banned for days because they say something stupid. Is that really necessary? Couldn't just a warning be enough? I'm also sure that those players would be deterred to play because they've spoken their minds. That's just my opinion.

@Tentomon,

Ever heard of something called freedom of speech? Sure some things get taken a bit to the next level and that's when it should be reported. Why do I care so much? Because I'd like to be able to say whatever the hell I want without beings scared that I would be banned for it.
I mean come on dude, there are plenty of things on this forum itself that I'm sure if repeated in-game out loud, would have gotten a report.

As for my case? Bro that shit has nothing to do with this thread, I've only used it as an example.

It's been done before :^)

 

Freedom of speech is the idea that you can speak out against the authority without being persecuted by them. It doesn't mean you can say anything you want without consequences, especially from the wider society.

Touting "freedom of speech" as a justification for comments is also rather self depreciating. It's analogous to saying "Despite the fact that nobody wants to hear what I have to say, you can't stop me saying it".

 

This would also mean everyone has the right to report others here when they feel this is needed... You just pretty much contradicted the entire purpose of this idiotic thread.

 

This has to be one of the most selfish, self-centred, entitled and immature comments I have come across on the forum.

 

Please do not conflate freedom of speech with freedom to be an arse.

But sure, you're free to be an arse here, just be prepared to face the consequences.

 

A lot of people here like to use the adult card to say "we're adults, people should be able to handle stuff like this." But they don't want to acknowledge that we're adults, we should be more mature than this and accept any consequences to our actions. It's a juvenile thing to not want to deal with consequences.

 

I feel like this thread belongs on /r/JusticePorn, I am digging the well-versed and thoughtful rebukes to the clearly entitled and immature views of the OP.

Thanks for making my day guys

 

smd!!!

Seriously, grow up. My little sister as 6 years can swear (yeah, that's messed up..), and she just get a "SHH". Anyways, we all know how to swear, we know how to joke and how to insult. If you say something like:
"lol you suck, smd" - NOT insultive, at all. Learn to live with powermongers.

Something like..
"I hope you die, [insert racistic/homophobic word here, k]", then it should be ban-able.

but yeah guys if you stop insulting.. i guess that would be "kool" too

 

You're comparing apples to oranges. Your little sister is not only 6 years old, she is also family, and in a family situation where everyone knows each other swearing is different than online where no one knows each other.

Also, keep in mind this is a PRIVATE server not a PUBLIC server. What kind of a community and language that is deemed acceptable is entirely up to the admins (and if they so choose, they can ask the community at large for their opinion). You have no rights to freedom of speech here. You also have no right to do whatever the hell you want without expecting any consequences.

The GMs accept abuse and harrassment reports as their way of giving the community the power to choose what kind of language or statements are acceptable and unacceptable. The GMs, and the OWNERS of this PRIVATE server, clearly want the community to be able to play in an environment that we do not feel threatened, harrassed, or abused in any way.

tl;dr: Your analogy is fallacious. You and OP's wish to say whatever you want do NOT override the wishes of other players who don't want to hear abusive comments. This is a private server - playing MR is a privilege, not a right.

 

I've never said that I have a right to play this game. I play it for fun, which is what it should be. I see that the owners can choose what htey want, but it should also be permitted for the community to accept a simple insult. If you can't take a "fuck you" on the internet, then maybe it's time to get off, honestly. I have emphaty for those who gets homophobic/racistic/personal insults (e.g insulting dead friends).

And the community itself should be allowed to discuss a matter, if they want a change. Without us players, there'd be no server.

Your turn


Short and simple: This is the internet. Saying "fuck you" should not be punished.

 

Short and simple: this is a game for enjoyment. If people aren't enjoying their time (see: being spammed with cuss words) then staff isn't doing their job.