An option for the untradeable event chairs

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    Is it possible to give the players the option to exchange their currently possessed untradeable chair for another untradeable chair? Of course the list of chairs is LIMITED to the possible current event rewards.
    For example, a player with two monster party chair can exchange one of the monster party chair for a pearl clam chair. I am pretty sure there are alot of players out there with redundant untradeable chairs, the same untradeable chair is basically useless. With this option, we can atleast make use of the redundant chair and thus making the chair collection a tat more easier. Since most event chairs come around at a yearly interval...
     
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    I mean, I'm not entirely sure why chairs are untradable in the first place? Event or not, I feel like there's no harm in it, especially if someone has a rare event chair from a GM event, and would like to use it as a big bargaining chip for something.
     
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    I mean I dont really mind that some chairs are untradeable since it makes the chair more valuable and uncommon. It represents the mentality that you cannot buy everything with mesos. I just dont like the idea too have the same untradeable chairs, I mean even storage sharing between charactets in one account would be nice. But now the same untradeable chairs are just completely useless.
     
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    What about adding a checker to the event npc/ box so that it won't give you the same untradable chair if you already own it
     
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    Solves the same problem. But the currently owned ones cannot be exchanged and remain still useless tho, maybe an idea for future events with chairs
     
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    It a a great option as long as the exchange chair options aren't the really rare ones.
    I, too have 3 Secret Monster Party chairs. Although I don't really care about chairs at all.
     
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    As far as I understand, making a chair untradable (or any item really) does two things
    1. It gives rarity and value to unique items
    2. It prevents items that would be overpowered from entering the market
    Having a chair be untradable makes it unique to the event and prevents it from being traded for mesos, since it would inevitably become more valuable as the date of the event gets further and further away. Also, there is no way to make an item untradable to other people while having them be tradable within the same account's storage, unless you did it for all untradable items. That would create unfair advantages like being able to give your new character a 10 slot cape (White Valentine Ballon) or a Horus Eye. If we wanted some items account tradable but also untradable to other accounts we would probably need a new type of item state like "semi-untradable" or something, which is most likely impossible. I'm not a programmer though, so perhaps it is possible; although I doubt it since the untradable discussion has been around virtually as long as Royals has.

    EDIT: It would be cool to swap out 1 untradable chair for another from the same event while the event in ongoing, but that probably has some complications too.
     
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    Yeah, not the super rare ones, just the chairs that are available in the ongoing events. They are not really rare, everyone has some of them as long they are participating the event. It is just that some ppl gets unlucky and keep getting the same chair while others get a variety of them.
     
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    Ohhhhhhh, it is da man himself!
    I never suggested to make those chairs tradeable to other players, of course the "untradeable" attribute adds rarity and uniqueness to the item. And this should remain untouched. But I think "value" doesnt really apply on untradeable chairs, since they cannot be bought nor traded. You can actually call them invaluable. To some they could worth millions while to other they are worthless. And that is the problem; the same untradeable chair that you get is worthless. For example when you get the first chair that you don't own yet is like "Woaah awesome, a new chair!" But the second time or even the third time you get the same chair, you are more likely to be "Meh, I can't do anything with this." To some extent you can compare it to getting a 100% cape for MP scroll.
    As for giving unfair advatange to the mules in the same account by making untradeable items within account sharable, I do agree, but only for items that provide any sort of stats. But since we are talking about chairs which is in essence a toy that people use to show off with, they really don't contribute any advantages to mules stats wise. I mean with the potion being so cheap who really uses chair for its actual function (hp/mp recovery) as stated in its description lol

    #Stirge on a string bois
     
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    As far as trading between characters in the same account, my point was that it's either you can do it with all untradable items or none because there is no in between state. That was more related to what @rennac said, not you. I agree that it would be nice to have another options for untradable chairs. Maybe trading in 2 for 1 would be more fair.
    #Stirge-on-a-motherfucking-string-bois
     
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    If special event chairs that were untradeable are now tradeable, we would have one less thing to meme @Sila with
     
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    The only chair I wanted out of this event was Pearl Clam. People I know have one or more on every account. Me, not so much. I'm pretty frustrated, personally, so I would be very happy if any of these ideas was implemented.
     
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    Tradeable or not does nothing for rarity. They don't come from drops. There's still a fixed number in the server, I suppose if people are able to trade them, and the people who have them don't quit (and are never seen again), the chair would be "less" rare, but the same number would still be static till a new one is spawned as a prize.
     
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    It's not so much the rarity of the chair it influences, but the rarity of someone having the chair. I could have ten of them on one character, but no way to distribute them amongst others. So that is what will change if chairs are made tradeable.
     

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