Hacking activity in FM rooms CONFIRMED! Something must be done about this.

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  1. TopKEK
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    Yeah, it is the exact thing that happens to me and many other players (but not all) from what it seems. It may not be hackers, but still something is going on, it is not just "bad luck" with getting those. I have DCed 20+ times after 30 minutes to 2 hours (assuming I lower the graphics+stay in windowed mode). This isn't normal no matter how you spin it.

    The odd thing here is that is like a "timer". If you set up a timer each hour from the moment you go afk you will find out the DCs are disturbingly accurate with time.

    It is like there is some kind of script or bot in fm rooms that activates itself every x amount of time, DCing certain people while others are not being affected. The DCing is by the way not always the same. It is not just the kind you have experienced, there are also "normal" looking DCs after this period of time.

    Very, very weird.
     
  2. Sila
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    I can say for certain that I've never d/ced any other way except for this crash, while in FM - but in room 2. In fact I've had a shop open all day for 8 hours today with no issue. A combination of afking, bossing on another character, youtube , chatting etc. However I did crash over night when whispers were enabled again.. I don't d/c otherwise anymore.
     
  3. TopKEK
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    OK, another update - I have made my cleric to hold the spot for me in fm 1 so I can sell my stuff after cake. Then, I went to my main to do cake and stuff. Then, I dced from both clients - the cake one and the FM one, at the same time.

    That means, the cleric client have also DCed my mains client who was doing cake at that time. EXACTLY after 30 minutes, I even put up a timer from the moment I opened the store. It's very, very weird how accurate these DCs are.

    WTF is going on? Will this game ever be playable or some people just got the short end of the stick and are doomed to sell their items in FM entrance forever? Because I'm not going to waste 12k nx each week to get rid of my crap.
     
  4. Sila
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    I'm pretty sure your setup is having some sort of issues if you're d/cing at cake as well. Are you on windows 10?
    And please don't give me the whole spiel about having an amazing computer and the best internet in the world etc etc. That makes no difference for a 10 year old game.
     
  5. TopKEK
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    Yeah, I am on windows 10. Should I try different OS? If yes, which one? I will try using vmware with different OS, maybe that will help...
    I do not DC at cake, at least not when I'm doing cake without the other client holding a spot for me. What I was trying to say that I have DCed at cake ALONG with my other client - which was holding a spot for me in fm 1...So yeah, it could cause the DC at cake. Before that, I was doing cake just fine.

    Oh and I agree about the whole computer/connection thing, our computers back then were much slower and it was running well.
     
  6. Sila
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    Windows 10 has some weird compatibility issues with the game sometimes, Ive heard of issues starting up/logging in but I wouldn't be surprised if it extended into other things. I personally use windows 7 without issue aside from the whole crashing in fm 1 thing.

    Interestingly enough, I've been in FM 2 all day....and haven't crashed once at all. I event slept for four hours and came back and was still connected.
     
  7. TopKEK
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    Still no use. DCing is even worse now when I'm using different OS/vmware. If on Windows 10 I'm dcing every hour or 2 if I'm lucky, on other OS it's....15 minutes! Yes, there is no mistake, 15 minutes. Not even 30. It has to be some kind of sick joke.

    This just happened 3 times in a row, one of which was right next to you in FM 2. So location does not matter here.

    It is the same thing by the way. Both regular and the other kind of DC.
    I seriously don't know what to do anymore. I have so much things to sell and I can't even last an hour and my stuff is selling very quick actually. It will take a while for merchants to come back but even when they do, why should I spend 12k nx every week to sell my stuff? I have 88 att revolver to gach out and every amount of NX is crucial for that.

    Will this thing ever be fixed, or as long as there is a big privileged majority it will just be forgotten?
     
  8. N'wah
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    Dude this honestly sounds like an issue with your connection, not with the server.
     
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  9. Kai
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    Same as Sila, just went about 8 hours without any problems. Whisper, etc all enabled.
     
  10. Hampa
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    just sell stuff on forum wait and hope that your problem goes away eventually.
     
  11. TopKEK
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    If my connection is so horrible, why I don't dc when I am grinding or even selling my stuff in FM entrance? There are even more people there so I should dc even more. But somehow, I rarely dc there.

    This isn't an issue on my part (at least not with my internet connection), I can bet 20b on that.

    @Hampa I have tried that. It's slow af and takes forever and lowballers are all over the thread. In my FM shop I am making billions from being afk despite the small amount of time I can last. Why should I resort to something that barely makes me money and consumes tons of my time?

    Besides, there is a huge amount of people with the same issue. What should they do?
     
  12. John
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    You really need to stop with this rhetoric that a huge amount of people will be forgotten and "Will this thing ever be fixed, or as long as there is a big privileged majority it will just be forgotten?" A member of staff has been posting literally every single day in response to your posts with her experiences and as you can see by both your posts and others posting their experiences, there really hasn't been much consistency in what is causing the disconnection. So contrary to the title of your thread, hacking activity hasn't been confirmed. However, we are still looking into what is causing the issue so as to prevent or at least reduce the frequency and occurrences of disconnects that you and others are facing.
     
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  13. Muff
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    I've had my shop up for days at a time on different clients with no issues. They only come down when I close them.
    Was your computer shipped with Windows 10, or did you upgrade it from 7 or 8.1? Have you installed all updates, including the Creators Update? Have you updated your network drivers?
    To me it sounds like one or both of your clients are seen as idle by the machine and possibly it's timing out your connection or memory/CPU resources. Windows 10 is stupid that way. Downgrade to 7. Don't use a virtual machine. Do you have a spare hard drive?
     
  14. TopKEK
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    Sorry if I sound like that before but this rhetoric comes from worrying that me and some people will get screwed somehow. Not because I actually think that you don't care about the issue. I know you do. I am not complaining, I'm just worried and trying to explain the issue the best I can to help you know more details about it.
    I'm personally playing this game for the following things - scrolling, FM and everything economy related. It's been like that since old school GMS. It's pretty obvious that both regular shops and hired merchants are like 90% of the game to me. It's like lowering the exp by 10 for people who play to get to higher level quick....


    @Muff This computer came with Windows 10, yeah..I will try using other version of Windows without the use of VM or try other computer...Maybe that will work. Hopefully. :)
     
  15. Bean
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    Just wanted to add my experience to this in hopes of ruling things out:

    I often have at least two clients running at once, sometimes even have both with open stores. I have kept them open for 12+ hours at a time. I have never DC/ed nor have I ever DC/ed any other time in the game (since that major DC fix that is).

    I use Windows 10 so that is most likely not your problem. Do you use WiFi? Are you able to hardwire your connection, at least to test if that helps?

    I have to lower my resolution to 1366x768 in order for my client to work properly. But that results in a crash, not D/C like you are referring to.

    And your logic is 'why don't I d/c in main FM room with all that spam and people?' but at least in my opinion, I would think a FULL FM room filled with stores that have a bunch of items in them, plus all the owners of those stores, plus everyone going in and out shopping would cause more strain on the network than the main FM Room, but that is just me.

    Maybe try setting up a shop in an empty FM and see if you have any better luck.
     
  16. RainbowWing
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    I don't know if it was my wifi. I had the same issue just today.
    After server check, I got the fm1 door spot and middle row on my mule. When I checked again after 8hrs, Royals is advicing me to take a break for I have been on for 8 hrs, client not crashed, stores looked open on my screen, but it has been disconnected. I checked this by logging on another character I have. I feel fishy since I did put up my shop with no problem 3 days in a row... Maybe it was just an accident?
    :confused:
    (actually, I think I didn't disconnect from royals. In my experience, disconnection results in crashes immediately. But I logged in my characters without restarting clients and I got "you have been playing for 9 hrs" message.
     
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    OK guys, good news and an update - I set up a shop yesterday in fm 1 and went to sleep after 2 hours. I just woke up, checked it out with my second account.

    It's still up after more than 10 hours!!

    So if someone here experienced the same issues in the past, this is how I did it:

    I took my other computer with Windows 8 installed there, disabled ALL invitations, windowed mode+lowest graphics and it worked!

    But I think if you just install Windows 8 on your computer instead of 10 you should be fine, I'm just lazy lol

    It is important to uncheck all invitations though. I first got a spot in FM 1, forgot to uncheck the invitations and DCed in 15 minutes. Then, I was lucky enough to get FM 1 door spot with my second account holding it for me and this time did everything I mentioned before even setting up a store.


    So it might be an issue with Windows 10 or with this specific computer of mine. I don't know. However, I hope that helps you guys who have the same problem!
     
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  18. Sila
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    I'm glad you were able to stay online for a period of time! I haven't been online today to try anything. But I do know that Kevin also implemented something that might've also helped too.
     
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  19. Muff
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    Windows 8 is no longer supported by Microsoft for security updates. I highly recommend you update it to 8.1 to avoid viruses and malware. Or go down to Windows 7.
     
  20. TopKEK
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    That's OK, this specific device is only used for some program I'm working with (can guarantee there is no malware/viruses there) and now also for holding my spots in FM at the same time. I'm not even watching youtube on it. Thanks for the advice though, will do on other devices with windows 8 on them!

    Oh and @Sila I doubt it's what Kevin has implemented this time because I still DCed on my windows 10 computer even after the update. Can anyone else check out and see if the issue is still continues?
     

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