The Gach and AP Reset Change

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    I strongly believe AP Resets should once again be tradeable BUT Gach should remain untradeable. The reason being AP Resets sell are good for the economy and allow a money sink, which the server really needs. If anything, make an NPC that sells them for like 10-20m each, and remove them from drops. Or keep them in drops so that new people to the server have a stepping stone into the economy.

    Gach on the other hand I like that they are untradeable now and should honestly have no way of making it to other characters because of their gambling capability; and so people can't do what you and I spoke about Matt.

    Gach allow for unfair economical advantages, AP resets don't because they also cost about 5x the price of a gach in the Cash Shop anyway.

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    ap resets for 10-20m is ridiculous imo

    i vote for keeping them as drops, make them tradeable, but make gach untradeable.

    atm hp washing a character is nearly impossible or will cost a massive investment in both time and money.

    for instance i was talking to someone today who has a perma beginner, and cant zak because washing is not possible for him. i think that really needs to change.
     
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    I don't think they should be sold from NPC; however, I think the previous system of AP resets should be reinstated.

    As Xeorr stated, if a permabeginner wanted to HP wash, it would literally take hours, if not days to collect the necessary AP resets to wash that much HP.

    @Matt, what was the abuse that ensued to cause AP resets to be untradeable.
     
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    My 10-20m idea was based on the drops still happening. So you can get them from others for 5m, or if no one is selling and you need like 2 more AP resets, you can just drop it on the NPC. I mean, realistically, there is WAY too much money in the economy right now, so there has to be places to sink mesos where it won't stay in the economy.
     
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    Hm. I definitely think an NPC should sell AP resets for like 10mil. I think that sounds like spot on perfect to help the economy. I mean, Matt's rework on gach has really helped. But, still gach is a means of gaining quite a bit of money if you're lucky. which at some point we all eventually are. *Hasn't happened to me yet but I mean. I've only really played for a week*
    I think AP resets should still drop.. They don't drop that often so it's fine... And really only certain characters need them. Such as beginners. So making them tradeable still would be important.
    Gach can happily stay untradeable. That's fine. I mean. That's what we spend our nx on, really.

    I wish I knew how AP resets were abused. Perhaps if I had a better understanding I'd be against them. But with the knowledge I have. This is how I feel about this situation.
     
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    I'm sorry, what?
     
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    She's talking about outside of HP washing. Most classes are pretty linear stats wise. Unless you mess up royally or want to change your play style completely.
     
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    And apart from HP washing - why would beginners need AP resets?
     
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    Stat swapping at higher levels if they want to do anything outside of hunting low avoid monsters.
     

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