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    can you tell us a bit about where your money and items are coming from while you're only lvl 50 and you recently started?
     
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    Hello,Tim.
    Thanks for replying.Let me tell you the whole story.
    How i get funded:About 20days ago,my friend(IGN:Iverson3) who used to play royals told me that"there is a fantastic nostalgic verson maplestory game called mapleroyals,and you are good at CMS old days,why not play with me."He knew that, i was good at marketing and scrolling in CMS old days,so he want to make some investment on me ,and get refund and bonus from me later.But i refused him at first place.And he told me"I am busy working,so maybe have no time to play royals recently,could you help me to buy some event scrolls cuz I dont have time to find some event scolls at lowest price.and you can use 1b for start fund and refund me when you feel comfortable."(he deemed that prcie of event scrolls will go up when he came back.) I thought i could help him.so i got 2 stacks of int scorlls from him,and told him hows the price of event scrolls ,and he bought some event scrolls himself and passed the scrolls to me said sell those scrolls if business goes bad.and i sold out 2 stacks of helm int srcolls by 7m each,gained 1.4b orso before tax.Inaddition,i bought about 500-700m event scrolls and leave about 500m orso on me for liquidity.(i dont remember precisely number.)few days ago,i thought i am done with my job,so i refund events scrolls to his hero(IGN:<what> ,you banned me ,so i dont remember precisely,but i do buddy him two character.) refund amount is:15-16event scrolls for gfa and earring int+over 10 scrolls for t-hed sword/spear/bow/claw ,i dont remember precisely cuz i earn a lot by his fund,so i wanna give him some bonus.i think refund amount is about 4b orso.
    How i get mesos and items:i am a new of this game,but i was a freemarker in CMS old days,so i level up to lv50 at first place,so i can use skill to make me move fast skill of scrolling and gach,i have no will to train further,cuz i am a freemarker,i just wanna scroll and scorll in this game.and then,i do a lot of research on freemarket in game and selling history on forum,and calculate which is the lowest earning price of scrolls and equipment which i wanna scroll,and how many percents income i can get statistically.That's full statistically calculation including every result(if i 30% 3-4times,there are over 100 different results need to be valued),to be bref,i do the stacistical valuation of scrolls and clean items,so if the success rate of scrolls stands,my advantage in scrolling statically stands.
    i begin to scroll item which i find most profitable,and start up with 500m orso.
    What i have scrolled in two weeks: 123att nisrock,117/4slots nisrock/132att 1slot nisrock/16luk77att craven/30tma maple shield/29tma maple shield/20tma 4slots maple shield/25tma 5slots maple shield/28tma ywg/18tma wg/190tma ele wand6.i dont remember everything i scrolled,i scrolled 10att wg to ws-item.I only list what on my mind that i do scroll,but i think this could be enough for investigation. you can check both in game datebast and on forum.sometime i update the forum scroll by scroll,i make for sure that i scrolled everything by myself.i dont even buy a single item that is made.All i bought was clean and i scrolled them.you can check in game.
    I scrolled item and sell on forum or in game with my tiny statistical advantage,that makes me step to today's assets.i hope GMs can check it out and undan me ,thanks in advance.
     
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    What can you tell me about the character Nullityhour
     
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    thanks for @Tim quick reply.
    you help me recall my firend's hero IGN:Nullityhour.His FP mage ign:Iverson3.watch the whole story again,and you can easily verifiy that i indeed refund him a lot event scroll by trade.I think what you may turely wanna ask is ,why the last LOGIN ip and mac was same as me.i am gonna tell you is that,like what i talked in my last explanation,he is my firend in real life.oneday(forgive me that i cant remember percisely),after a party,he came to my home,and we chat ,of coz include mapleroyals.and i said "hey,i made a fortune with the fund you lend to me ,and it's time to refund."he said ok,and He LOGIN his account on my computer,and i refund him.i guess you must ask,how can you prove that is He login the account not me.i gonna tell you that,i cant prove that,i dont make a video about that moment.but i wanna say,supposed you are walking in my shoes,do you have any necessary to login anyone's account and just for refund,and you can check,what we only do,is refund the event scrolls.we happen to chat to that step and do this,100% by accident.People make account sharing for geting advantage.but i dont have any advantage for this movement,BUT get disadvantage for lossing 4b net working capital.think about my explanation,i think i dont have any motivation to let me have any necessity to do any account sharing.
    i hope you can check out and unban me . thanks for helping in advance.
     
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    Don't need to bump your thread. We work from oldest to newest and if you don't get a respond, meaning we're still investigating.

    Your thread will be unlocked by the admin handling your case once his verdict is out.
     
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    So you and your friend logged in on the same pc at the same time and one of you traded the other to exchange some items?
     
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    yep,tim.i log in my account and he log in his account.we trade ,and i give his 15-17(gfa+earring)event scrolls,and some claw/bow/spear/two handed sword event scrolls.that's all we did at that time,like i remember.
    edit:i think "exchange" isnt accurate,i only give him event scrolls and get no mesos/items back,just for refunding.
     
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    hello tim
    i dig out some picture to verified that every items is scrolled by myself(i try my best to find every picture,becuz they are from chatmacro,and i taked them by phone,so i cant make sure they are fullcut.)i hope them can help you for investigation.
    glove+2(30%)
    [​IMG]
    glove+3(30%)
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    glove finished
    [​IMG]
    bowman oa
    [​IMG]
    craven +3(30%)
    [​IMG]
    craven+4(30%)
    [​IMG]
    wand+3(30%)>190tma
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    20tma 6slots shield(you can also check it in my selling post)
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    shield2 25tma 5slots(also on forum selling part)
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    when i scroll it
    [​IMG]
    bow +4(30%)
    [​IMG]
    bow +5(30%)
    [​IMG]

    more information:i make a phone call to Iverson3,and we both think,i refund near 4b event scrolls to his hero(IGN:Nullityhour),scrolls still there,the date of refund is july 24tht or 25th.
    what he lend to me is 249 helm int scrolls for 60%<sold at 7m each in two days like i remember>,the date of lend is july 8th-10th<not sure>,too long to remember percisely.
    i hope these informations can help you save your time.
     
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    We cannot confirm nor deny your story of your friend coming over to log in at your PC to play, however what we can tell you is that it's never ok to play on two accounts belonging to different people, at the same time on the same computer. Not even just to leech your friend, or just to set his AP, just to transfer some items or any other reason. This includes if you have their consent to do so, even if they are in the same room with you.
    We consider a transfer of items between these accounts belonging to different people, logged in on the same computer, as account sharing which is a banable offense on mapleroyals.
     
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    thanks @Tim.
    we can promise we will not do this again.this is only one time he log in and log out on my pc,chould you plz give me one chance?since login same pc as a bannable offense,i make sure i will not conduct any banable behavior.
    furthermore,even if you will take it into account of some kind of bannable offense,it's just a kind of minor offense,cuz i dont even get a perks.at LV50 and only play scrolling in this game,i cant get buff/leech by a hero in about 2mins,and i dont get mesos/items from him.and i dont tell even a lie in whole ban appeal,and i think that can help you make some guess this time.
    All in all,at least,i dont do a per-ban offense right,but i got a per-ban,and in fact,we already serve a sentence of this for 8days now,we take lessons on this and will not do it again.could you plz give us a single chances?
     
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    As per rule 10 and appendix 4 your accounts have been permanently banned​
     
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    thanks for @Tim quickly reply.
    i wanna explain that,even if you judge this as an account sharing,As per rule 10 and appendix 4,i dont remove items from his account right?and now,delete is bug,i cant delete his character,on my p/c i can give some items to someone right?could you judge this as first offense and ban us for 30days?
    Edit:and in chinese T&C,there is a word:移除他人装备、物品、道具。
     
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    you removed items from your character and transferred them to the character you were multi logged on at the same pc, while you dont own that character. This technically bans Nullityhour for account sharing, and you for being the person he shared with.
     
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    thanks @Tim.
    i hope you can find some GM who can read chinese,or there will be some disadvantage for chinese ppl who play in this serve.
    in chinese T&C(在官网论坛中文翻译版条例中):4.未经同意移除他人装备、道具、物品或删除别人的角色。
    Setauket不是他人吧?Nullityhour自己登陆的账号,不可以叫未经同意。
    即便你猜测我们有共享账号,我们的行为也不符合中文条款里解释的严重违反条例中的任何一条翻译解释。
    If,you can explain whole things of chinese part,just PER-BAN me.

    ALL IN ALL,boyfriend and girlfriend,brothers,sisters good friends,should not play royals in a same room on same computer,that is a flaw.not for me ,you can ban me anyway ,but for the players in the future,i suggest you take consider adjust the T&C for they@matt.
    总而言之,男女朋友,兄弟,姐妹,密友,如果同处一室只制备一台电脑,就不能一起玩royals,我认为这是一个漏洞,需要在条例中做进一步的修订和解释。为了以后在royals上娱乐的人们。


     
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    只要你在同一台计电脑同时登录属于不同人(你弟弟,姐姐,妹妹,妈妈,爸爸,爷爷,奶奶,朋友等等)的帐户,并在两户口之间转移物品,这是属于违法行为,导致你被perm ban.

    If you log into multiple accounts on one computer (your account and Nullityhour 's account), and as long as one of the accounts logged in does not belong to you (Nullityhour's account doesn't belong to you), and you transferred items from your character to Nullityhour, it is considered a major Account Sharing offence, which is a permanent ban for you both.
     
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