Joking about RWT?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Zenoooo, Aug 6, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Alan
    Offline

    Alan Donator

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    1,195
    Likes Received:
    1,026
    Country Flag:
    Guild:
    Rendezvous
    At the Discretion of Staff.

    There's no fine line on which is bannable and which is not, it all depends on the discussion and decision of the staffs . Players should never joke about RWT, it brings no humour but only the risk of getting your account banned.
     
  2. 87Karlos
    Offline

    87Karlos Donator

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2015
    Messages:
    3,063
    Likes Received:
    2,215
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Lima-Peru
    Country Flag:
    IGN:
    87karlos
    Level:
    200
    Guild:
    Oblivion
    Finally someone with common sense. Would people spend- and I'm exaggerating- 20 thousand dollars for an item in game? Most likely no, but believing someone has 20 thousand dollars is possible while believing someone has a trillion dollars not. I find it so fun how people always find something dumb to try to mess with the staff decision and are so judgmental about it.

    Just my 2cents, not like I really care.
     
    Kai likes this.
  3. Evan
    Offline

    Evan Donator

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    2,361
    Likes Received:
    7,147
    Gender:
    Male
    Guild:
    Resignation
    Technically, any solicitation of RWT is bannable, believable or not. I won't speak for other staff, or for the server itself, but the believable infraction via extension (how I understand it) doesn't magically nullify the original infraction just because a player thinks it's joke-worthy enough and not "believable." However, like it's been said a half dozen times it's at the discretion of the staff.
     
    Kai, Bryanz, Shnang and 1 other person like this.
  4. Stan
    Offline

    Stan Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2014
    Messages:
    2,250
    Likes Received:
    3,582
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    England
    Country Flag:
    IGN:
    SgtYellow
    Level:
    15x
    Guild:
    Nipple
    What Karlos and Evan have said is essentially the point, which is why I originally said this thread dumb.

    However, if what @John said is true and is the reason that the op was banned (I don't know who actually dealt with the ban) then it doesn't stand up to scrutiny as the ss does indeed say 1b rather than 1m.

    At the end of the day it is still staff discretion, but it makes me uneasy if the ban could have gone either way, but ended up on the side of a ban due to an initial mistake.
     
    Zenoooo likes this.
  5. Sen
    Offline

    Sen Donator

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2016
    Messages:
    2,360
    Likes Received:
    30,599
    Location:
    Shoutbox
    IGN:
    Sentenial
    I suppose to answer your original question...

    Short Answer: Yes.

    Long Answer: Yes, depending on the situation. Especially if the joke can be perceived as a believable claim to solicit RWT, as explained in the T&C.
     
  6. sambooooooooseh
    Offline

    sambooooooooseh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    70
    Likes Received:
    7
    Gender:
    Male
    Country Flag:
    IGN:
    sharikhan
    Level:
    900
    Tbh i cant see a difference between the two jokes, the only difference is that one got banned and the other didnt, like who's gonna pay 1m yen on a game ? And imo the report abusers who report for a word are kinda immature, like its a goddamned word that wouldnt affect someone, (even tho i didnt get banned not once too) but f.e i've seen a post where a guy says to a friend "N" u serious, here he means "man" or "pal" which isnt racist in any means
     
  7. Zenoooo
    Offline

    Zenoooo Donator

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2015
    Messages:
    1,218
    Likes Received:
    657
    Gender:
    Female
    Country Flag:
    IGN:
    Jan 2015
    Level:
    -
    Guild:
    Oct 2017
    Updated #1 cuz ppl seem to be mislead by John.
    The amount is not 1m. It's 1b.
    The currency is not Japanese yen. It's Chinese yuan.
    ¥1b=$148.7m

    For more info please read #20.
     
    Last edited: Aug 9, 2017
  8. Evan
    Offline

    Evan Donator

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    2,361
    Likes Received:
    7,147
    Gender:
    Male
    Guild:
    Resignation
    To be fair, 1 billion or 1 million, it's still a joke about RWT.

    Also, as far as I know, GM's aren't assigned specifically to certain issues because of where someone is from unless there is an obvious language barrier, so the issue with knowing or not knowing whether you meant yen or yuan is irrelevant, as your post was in English. As for your point about unrealistic and unbelievable being the same thing, they're too separate words. Both in definition and how they're used... as seen by the spoiler. There is no contradiction IMO for using those words to describe separate situations that are different.

    unvel.png

    So we have unbelievable vs...

    unreal.png

    oh well that's not a great definition...

    real.png

    Ah much better, "NOT having or showing a sensible or practical idea of what can be achieved or expected", that's a bit more useful. It's subtle, but the point is just because something is believable doesn't mean it's realistic (believable =/= realistic), and conversely, just because something is unbelievable, that doesn't mean it's unrealistic (unbelievable =/= unrealistic). For example, going to the Eternia to meet He-Man is unrealistic, but someone can believe they will. One has to do with what is perceived-on and the other is about how we perceive it).

    And before you come up with a situation that is both believable and realistic (IE, believable = realistic) I can save you the trouble, that's most everything we encounter every day. Bananas are both realistic and believable. The use of this type of reasoning as a means of disproving another argument is a form of an association fallacy.

    I know you think it's unfair you were banned and the other player wasn't, but both bans are past now. The take home should be that just because there's a part of the ToS about "Believable" claims, it doesn't give people a get out of jail free card with bending the rules, and as it stands people shouldn't make jokes about RWT. It's been said several times but since it keeps being brought up... Yes, joking about RWT can result in a ban.

    Anyways.. I will be closing this thread as the main point (is joking about RWT bannable?) has been sufficiently answered.
     
    Alan and Zenoooo like this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page