Hi, I have a level 45 bandit who has a normal AP build (Base dex = level + 40). My question is simple. 1) I have 20+ dex from equips. So, instead of adding 4 luk 1 dex every level (as recommended in guides), should I just add 5 luk every level? I could do this for the next 20+ levels. The reason for this is that my equips add 20+ dex. Please let me know if this is a good move. 2) I'm a bit confused about making my bandit do better dmg numbers. Should I be going for luk or dex equips? I understand that WA is the best, but what's next? LUK or DEX? This is my first time making a bandit so I'm kinda lost.
you should aim to have as low dex and str as possible and have equips that make up for it. So ideally you want to have 25 dex and 4str and have equips that give you enough dex and str to equip shield and dagger. Once you have enough str and dex for equiping your gear you want all the luk and atk you can get. The way of gaining dmg at a lower level is by getting higher atk/luk gear, you don't really need any to equip daggers and stuff like that untill you're higher level. Also you shouldn't forget that Meso explosion which is your main dps skill is static dmg, which means the dmg it deals isn't effected by your gear only by the amount of mesos you drop.
Hi Hampa, thanks for the answer. I should definitely look for more WA/LUK equips in FM. Just to clarify: Assuming that I'm continuing my normal AP build (Level + 40 DEX), if I'm getting extra DEX from equips, I should just put extra AP into LUK to keep my DEX exactly at (Level + 40 Dex). Is this what you meant when you said to keep DEX as low as possible?
I think for lower levels you don't really need dex since theres dexless daggers. Later on you want to be able to equip the dragon kanzir and in order to do so you need 150 dex and 75 str. Personally I would've just added luk for the first maybe 90 levels or so, and eventually i would try and see how much str and dex i could get out of my equips. Knowing how much str and dex my equips will give me, I would start adding str and dex in order to get 150 dex and 75str in total since it is quite unlikely my equips will give me that much alone.
Thanks for the clarification! From what you're saying, you're suggesting that I go a Full-LUK build. I'm all for it if it improves my bandit's damage in the lower levels. Is a full-LUK build better than a normal AP build for bandits (at least for the first 90 levels)? When you played your bandit, did the full-LUK build improve damage for the first 90 levels? Couldn't find info on this - the guide (https://royals.ms/forum/threads/in-depth-shadower-guide.8122/) doesn't mention this sadly.
For a bandit what gives you more dmg is attack and luk, dex and str adds a tiny bit of dmg bit its barely worth mentioning. The only reason why you add dex and str on your bandit is in order to use thief gear like top/bottom/gloves/shields/daggers. Since luk and attack is the source to damage the best thing would be to add luk until you're getting to around lv. 80-110 around the time when you can equip your endgame equips (dragon kanzir, dragon khanjar, lv 80-90 top/bottom). Before that it is not really worth to add dex since you wont be buying new equips every 10 levels, it would be pretty expensive to do so. Rather you would be looking to buy a zhelm, atk/luk maple shield, luk earrings, luk bathrobe, atk/luk cape, atk shoes, atk glove, and a decent atk dexless maple dagger for lv. 43, 64 and 77.
Since you already have 85 base dex, I suggest that you only add luk from now on. Look up what equips you will be getting later on, figure out if you will be missing dex/str then add what you're missing just before you reach the level when you need it. To get better damage right now you should look to get some temporary items that give luk, don't bother with getting the equips that require dex/str for these lower levels just buy the maple daggers or other dexless ones, don't buy gear that gives dex exclusively since right now you don't gain anything from it.
Thanks for the awesome replies. Your first answer especially cleared everything up for me. I'll just focus on LUK and WA now on then. My bandit's already using the lvl 43 Maple dagger. Thanks so much again Hampa!
Str and dex will only help stabilize your damage range for the most part. I wouldn't say they are negligible stats, they just aren't as helpful as luk. In old school gms a good amount of players (including myself) went str shadower for the 1. higher attack speed daggers, and 2. more stable damage from the added str in their builds. Here there is a ton of added stats from the godly system exclusive to royals, so attaining 75/150 is a LOT easier and thus, everyone is a str shadower. Good luck! Hope to see you out there someday as a fellow shadower
hello, i just created a bandit but idk how to build the ap stats for a str shadower. Right now the only lead i have is to have enough str by the time i can equip a Dragon khanjar. so do u know how to build the stats up to lvl 70?
Pre level 70 you don't need any STR as there are no shields available that require str before then. As for daggers just stick to using LUK daggers until 120 tbh. Up to level 70 just put all your AP into luk and dex to wear equipment. by 120 have 75 str and equip Dkhanjar.
