Faming/defaming

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  1. SassyBass
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    In addition, getting defamed just feels shitty. Getting defamed 5-10 times in a row by the same person feels even worse.

    Getting famed is great, 5-10 fames feels even better.

    Is it really that hard to understand how one can be considered harrassment, and the other is not?
     
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    What if someone is generally aiming for defames, but someone he doesn't like comes to mass defame him. The defames are in his favor and the report would also be.

    There are too many loopholes i can state, but wish not to. Fames and defames shouldn't be regulated as long as there aren't any forms of harassment.
     
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    False, if someone wrong me ima obliviously jump them. I dont destroy people reputation anyway, i just destroy them like a boss. Anyway the reason why u didnt see anything wrong is cause u forgot ur eyeglass
     
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    I think we can both agree this applies to the minority of people, and I am pretty sure the staff will consider this situation on a case-by-case basis.

    What is really important is how you intended to make the other player feel - good, or bad - that determines whether what you did is harrassment.
     
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    /start rant

    You know, back in GMS, which we all played at one point, I have never ever heard of someone getting banned for defaming. Why? Because it was a part of the game.

    Faming/defaming is a part of the game, please lern2accept that and move one with your life. I find it extremely hard to believe that ANYONE would be this upset over losing fame. Here is a piece of advice, grow up. Stop trying to milk the situation in your favor pretending that you actually care about it. Is everyone playing this game a pre pubescent teenager?
     
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    They are part of the same feature however. The faming feature. Except it has 2 sides. 1 to raise it, 1 to lower it.
    Also on maplestory fame has no value of how popular someone is. Some people want defames, some want fames. It's just a number.
    If we should believe these numbers, Mike would be the most popular person on this server. But is he really?
    On mapleroyals (and in general) fame is simply bought. It's a number without a meaning.
    Faming/defaming on maple is quite different from real life and shouldn't be treated the same way. (my opinion, but I suppose not everyone shares this opinion)
     
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    Which is why this needs to be clarified once and for all, anyone can also say something made them feel bad just to get that other person banned, but defames are defames it's a feature literally to express a tolerable dislike of another person without massive verbal abuse or harassment, that's what it's there for, if you want to do it 1 or 100 times.
     
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    I don't think you appreciate how immature your comment makes you look. If you're the type to "destroy" people instead of have diplomatic conversation then what are you doing in the Feedback section of the forums?

    I get what you're saying Liek. I think your reasoning is valid. But there are also reasons why the players in Royals chose a private server as opposed to GMS or EMS, and there are some mechanics (KSing, fame harrassment, etc) that I personally believe we are better off without.
     
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    "I don't think you appreciate how immature your comment makes you look."

    Um, i dont understand what your trying to say. IIRC, your not allow to type in any other lanauges besides english in any section except for the foreign lanuage section. Please abide to the forum rule, or ima have to report u.
     
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    LOL, people didn't come here just because they didn't like being defamed in gms.........
     
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    I think I misspoke, Kreupel, sorry. Faming and defaming ARE the same feature. The effects that they have, however, are completely different.

    Also, I think it's a very dangerous mindset to have, that we should define how important fame should be treated. Just because it is not important to me, does that mean it is not important to anyone else?

    For example, I know many, many people who would have no issue with the "n" word being said out in public. We still consider it harrassment in Royals, because there are people out there who are hurt hearing that word, and their opinions do matter.

    If there are people out there who hold fame dearly (and I believe there are), we should respect their wishes and not gratuitously mass-defame others whilst assuming that it won't matter to them.
     
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    Not the point of this topic guys. Please go back on topic :)
     
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    I didn't get banned in gMS this, I didn't get banned in gMS that. This argument is so stupid and retarded. Why do people say this everytime? Do you know how many tickets Nexon got back in the day? More than a thousand everyday. Which is why no one ever got banned except for hacking. gMS has a small team with a huge playerbase, so they don't have the time to ban everyone who harasses somebody.

    Quit being dumb and think why you could get away with a lot in gMS.
     
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    Please forgive my Sybe sensei *grovels with respect*
     
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    The thing with the N word is, it's covered in the ToS. And classed as racist. Where as defaming is not mentioned.
    If people are getting banned for defaming, they should atleast have a chance to know if they are going to be. Instead of being told; yeah it's harassment.
    What one finds harassment might differ to what another thinks is harassment. I for one wouldn't concider it harassment. So if I'd defame someone several times, I'd get banned without actually knowing I've done something bad.
    The whole point here is not defaming should be fine or banable, but should be made more clear or made fine. My opinion is, as shared by several others here;
    defaming someone several times is not harassment but a game feature.
    If someone can scam fame several times and not get banned for it, someone who defamed someone several times shouldn't be punished that harsh.
    Either the defamed should get his fame back or the defamer should get his fame reduced as well. As apperently this is a big deal to some people.
     
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    really? I got banned in GMS for harassing nexon in email. Can you be lawyer and help me get back my account in gms then? Although my chars were like really old and weak, but i miss my hairstyle on my char.
     
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    Wow this thread... Wtf.

    I think it's pretty simple. Yes, faming and defaming is not against the rules. But purposely going out of your way to defame somebody with multiple of your own characters is harassment. It's pointless and frivolous.

    :lock:
     
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