Sold 69 ws ~440m & Norm Price Playing the Major Role

Facts:
I sold a 23 att BWG for 90 ws a week ago, and since then, I have been selling ws.
I set up 2 hired merchants and 8 ws at a time.
Most ws were sold for 444m-456m. About 8 were sold for around 435m.
I sold 69 ws in a week without lowering the price much. The current price is 450m, which is slightly higher than in the beginning of these 7 days (about 444m).
I remember owling twice, and my price wasn't the lowest. Still when I relogged after 16-24 hours my ws were usually sold.

Discussion:
These actions were taken to lower the price back to the old source price (300m/320m):
1. Increasing the chance of getting ws/cs,
2. Sinking more meso (higher tax rate, chair Gachapon),
(Edit: ) 3. 2X NX events.
The 2nd action occurred at the same time I sold 69 ws.
These actions seem to fail so far.

Some people advocated selling ws/cs at a certain price by NPC. This may be a possible way to bring down the current norm price for ws and cs.

Actually I would prefer those who just scanned the thread mindlessly not to reply cuz that helps nothing in this discussion.
Off-topic reply is not welcome.

 

Wrong chat ?

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/white-scroll-and-chaos-scroll.103527/

 

No.

 

You can't expect the price you sell WS and CS to instantly be lower the day the chair gacha is introduced. I can tell you quite a bit of mesos have left the economy through the chair gacha, so prices will eventually have to go down (I believe) as there are simply less mesos currently in the server as a whole.

 

Facts:
Because of higher trading/merchant tax, 2x NX event, and chair gachapon, the price of many equips/items/scrolls has dropped a lot. However the price of ws/cs doesn't drop. (Actually ws was 50m cheaper than cs, but the price ws has increased by 50m to the price of cs.)
Discussion:
The price of ws/cs would be the last to be affected, if it will ever be. Price fluctuation has been going on for quite a while. I have no idea what the price of scrolls and other items would drop to if we expect the actions taken to be able to lower the price of ws/cs.
Setting NPC ws and cs price at, for example 350m and 400m, would affect the price of ws and cs only, because people would sell ws/cs lower than NPC price, and consequently it will not sink too much meso, which would make it affect the market less when the surplus meso is sunk.


Just a few examples for price change:
Taru Totem 500m >> 400m
Clean FS 750m >> 600m
Clean SCG 1b >> 900m
Naricain Jewel dropped by 100m
C.ilbi dropped by 100m

70% top LUK dropped by 50%: 4m to 2m
30% gun dropped by 55%: 4.5m to 2m
30% bow dropped by 18%: 14m to 11.5m
30% overall INT dropped by 26%: 38m to 28m
30% earring INT dropped by 16%: 40m to 33.5m
60% shield for M.att dropped by 13.5%: 110m to 95m

Spoiler: Top LUK w/ avoid 70%

Spoiler: Overall INT 30%

(I took only one ss cuz there was a 10m scroll for sale lol.)

Spoiler: 30% bow and gun

(Didn't actually owl for 30% gun and bow. But the price here pretty much matches what I saw in FM.)

Spoiler: 60% Shield M.att

 

How do you use these prices as facts saying that they dropped from this to that, these prices imo looks like perfectly normal price ranges for people who wants to sell fast vs people who want to cram the most out of every item they sell.

 

Count the pages and number of scrolls.

Spoiler: -

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Actually I would prefer those who just scanned the thread mindlessly not to reply cuz that helps nothing in this discussion.

 

so are you saying just because there is a lot of top luk oa int and shield matk scrolls in fm and the cheapest are pretty cheap the prices went down? I don't see how that proves anything but please enlighten me. I would like to add that I happened to owl for shield matk 60% the first day of halloween event and the prices i found were actually starting lower and there were 4 pages at the time as well.

 

These happened before Oct.

 

This is ur point.

1. I doubt if there is inflation if all merchandise are taken into account.

Take best DPS classes weapons for example.
Craven: scrolled drop by 20%; clean: dropped by more than 20%, only perfect craven price is higher.
Nisrock: scrolled drop by 10%; clean: 100 drops from 2m to 1-1.5m, only perfect nisrock price is higher.
ST/Ski: scrolled equips do not change much, but clean equips are more expensive.
Concerto: do not change much.

2. About leech and bishop grinding:
Leech exists in the old source.
Gody is now dead which was many bishops' old source meso machine that created 80m meso per hour from nowhere, and gave them valuable scrolls and equips.

 

I don't see how a npc selling ws and cs not effecting anything other than cs and ws though. Everytime someone buys a ws or cs it will increase the value of the mesos that is left on the server, in other words ws and cs would be constant price and everything else would be worth less over time. This literally sucks for anyone who is not making most their income from farming and npcing equips.

I think that its too early to say that ws and cs wont drop from the latest attempt to sink (chair gachapon). I think it takes some time for the market to adjust for something like this.

 

I gave my explanation here. But ofc you can doubt this idea.

I agree that it's too early to set up NPC selling ws/cs right now, and I think the market need a little bit more time. But I also believe it's time to bring this up, and write some data and facts so that we don't have to wait till Oct 2018 to have a 3** cs price.
The reason why I replied @LuckyLook "No." is that there had been threads talking about ws/cs price, and there had been actions taken, yet nothing much is changed (a.k.a. ws/cs price is not even close to 300m).

 

My data:

Goby is more a thing in my opinion.
BTW don't forget there were months early 2017 when only 100 ppl were online. Thus much less meso was created.
@John do you have royals total meso change data since the new source?

 

Just take away CS/WS like you did with HT.

 

In my opinion, I agree with this BUT the current chair gach/mesos sink is short term. The prices will eventually go down IF the effective mesos sink stays in place to maintain the mesos generated:mesos sinking ratio.

 

Well yes and no. You got to remember that these mesos have been accumulating over a long period of time, not quickly. On the other hand, in the span of 8 days, a fair amount of the server's overall mesos have gone into this sink, very quickly taking a noticeable number of mesos out of the server. So yes, if an effective meso sink does not replace the chair gacha, eventually the problem would reoccur, but things would not instantly return to how it was pre chair gacha.

 

can the implement of boss NX come back soon?

we need more nx here really ! the shop nx sink is draining the economy dead...

and without the 2x NX/ Boss NX drop, the stable of ws/cs price is simply impossible

 

Check your mules, we have been refunded 24k nx on each account

 

I only have 2 account rip

this is still bad bad bad LF> boss NX back !!!!!

 

:/ the price is stable at 400-450m

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