Help Double Washing NL to 30k

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    Currently I'm level 59 and I'm looking to have 30k hp by the time I'm around level 130-140. I have started to put all of my LevelUpAp into INT awhile back. Right now, I have a BaseINT of 248, and total INT of 355. Just to be clear, I'm willing to leech my character all the way to whatever level will get me to 30k hp. If I have to add everything into INT, or MP, I am completely fine with that.

    I have looked a couple of guides, specifically one by @Christopher Chance (https://royals.ms/forum/threads/how-to-mp-wash-double-wash.18158/) , but his guide was only for those who have 0 INT equips. I am unsure if I should proceed with his guide ("based on Worst-Case Scenario" and with "0 INT Equips"), when I have an extra 107 INT from equips.

    Any help would be appreciated! ^-^
     
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    based on the guide you'll need 19,470 excess mp at lvl 140 to hp wash 1,622 times which is the amount you need for 30k.
    with your equips you won't need to mp wash as much as detailed because they provide some excess mp, so at lvl 140 when you mp wash aim for 19,470 which won't take 100 points in mp, but probably around 70, do the calculations when you're 140. or do what the guide says and have some extra mp from the equips.
     
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    Alright thank you! I calculated accordingly :)
     
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    I'm in the process of making a 30.000 HP night lord myself and I can tell you this much. I've found that guide you're following to be incorrect. I know it's supposed to be based on minimum gain, but there's several things calculated wrong there. I tried using it myself and tracking my HP washing process but the numbers were far off.. So I kind of just experimented myself along the way and managed to unlock the capability of HP washing to 30.000 HP at level 121.

    I wanted to make it to 30.000 HP as early as possible so I started off quite early with MP washing. I've been MP washing every single level from level 47. Your INT gear doesn't affect your process as much as you might think. You gain the most bonus MP from MP washing. But MP washing doesn't get affected by bonus INT and is solely based on your base INT. I did the same mistake as you and spent billions on INT gear. :D Also there's no point saving up LevelUpAP, as the guide tells you, as you'd gain way more bonus MP spending the AP every single level than saving it because LevelUpMP gain goes up every 10 INT.

    It's quite hard to factor in every single thing and correctly calculate everything based on worst-case scenario so I'd say just go with the flow. Calculate your bonus MP every now and see if you're on the right track. :)

    I hope that helps!
     
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    Why would you wanted to wash to 30k? Are you ready to afford 30k wash + gear to play your NL?
     
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    Yeah I've recently started to keep track of my MP gain from MP washing and the numbers are way off from the numbers in the guide. However I just started MP washing at level 70, so I probably won't hit 30k at 121 like you will xD I also discovered that my INT equips, like you said, aren't as helpful as I thought they were since MP washing is so much better -tear tear-
    Other than the numbers given in the guide, are the formulas used to calculate the approximate amount of washes and AP Reset needed correct? Such as adding the number of natural gain MP and the MP gain from washing? The end MP goal would still be about 19k right?
    Thanks for all the advice though :D Glad there's another fellow NL wanting to get 30k HP :D
     
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    I'm aware that reaching 30k is completely unnecessary and the mesos used for all the gear and AP resets could be used to for better late game gear. However, obtaining 30k HP seems to appeal to me quite a bit xD In regards to the funds needed, I have a leeching character; that should help even though I know it'll take quite some time before I reach my goal :)
     
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    As a player who has 2 30k characters (NL and BM) I will make this as simple a I can for you:

    1 keep leveling up until lvl 70 and add all your points to int.

    2. At lvl 71 you should start adding 5 lvl up points into mp, then use 5 ap resets to reset your MP and add them into int. At this point you are gonna spend 5 ap resets x lvl. Keep doing this until lvl 120.

    3. Keep repeating step 2 until you hit around 455 base int. This should be done at lvl 100 approximately.

    4. In this step we no longer need to add int as we have reached the desired base amount so you would mp wash and then add those 5 points into you main stat.

    5. At lvl 120 I believe you can stop. If you want you can keep doing the previous steps until lvl 135 for more mp.

    6. At lvl 135 you reset all your int into your main stats.

    7. After step 6 you just reset mp and add hp. 1 fresh lvl up point is needed in hp for this to work.

    Step 8. This only works for ranged character: NL,BM.

    Step 9. Don’t ask me anymore questions :3
     
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    Don't worry too much about hitting 30.000 HP early. It's so inefficient compared to if you MP wash late. You gain way more bonus MP by MP washing at 70 or later, than say 47, as I did. If I were to start over, I'd probably leech a character all the way to level 100 and then start MP washing. But yeah, this is also exactly the reason INT equipment aren't a necessity.

    As for calculating approximately how many washes are necessary for 30.000 HP, you need to factor in the following:

    - Your minimum HP at the specific level you want to reach 30.000 HP: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-reference-table.17093/
    - Your minimum MP at the specific level: 14*Level +148 (table for minMP in the link above is incorrect for thieves)
    - The HP required at your desired level: 30.000-minHP
    - The bonus mana required to get unlock enough HP washes: RequiredHP / (HP-per-wash) = Amount of AP resets necessary * MP-cost = RequiredMP

    And then you just track your progression afterwards. What I did was check my bonus MP every 10 levels or so until I got closer to my level goal.

    So in your case from the information you've shared:

    You're currently level 70 and have just started MP washing. You want to reach 30.000 by level 140:

    - Your minimum (clean) HP at level 140: (24 * 140) + 472 = 3832
    - Your minimum MP at level 140: (14 * 140) + 148 = 2108
    - HP required at your desired level: 30.000 - 3832 = 26.168
    - Bonus MP required to wash to 30K: 26.168 / 16 = 1635,5 (AP resets) * 12 = 19.626

    Which means your total MP is supposed to be 2108+19.626 = 21.734 or higher in order to unlock enough HP washes to reach 30.000 HP by level 140. This means you will need a total of 1636 HP washes to reach your goal. If you reach your total MP goal (21.734) earlier than 140, you can stop MP washing at that same level.

    I didn't mean to make a wall of text with this many calculations.. Hopefully this isn't too confusing and clears things up though. :)
     
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    Thank you so much!!! That seriously helped SOO much. Honestly not that good with calculations and anything math related, so I've been slightly stressing out trying to figure everything out xD. That cleared up even the slightest confusion I had left lol. Thank you again!! You were amazingly helpful :)
     
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