Getting serious with farming

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    Hello guys recently there's this thread about variety of ways to earn $$ that hooked my interest. I've always had doubts about how do people in the server get so rich to consistently afford stuffs worth hundreds of billions... until I read the reply from Shiyui saying that most rich players were dedicated to grind on their mages. That was when I came to realize I was wrong thinking that they've gotten so rich probably by chaosing with extreme luck/merching etc... IT'S ALL ABOUT HARD WORK!!

    Therefore I'm so motivated and planning to set a goal for myself to start grinding on my Bishop to fund my attacker char. I understand that it's more advisable to create an Archmage with hs mule to sell leech and 1 hitting many profitable maps easily, but I really hate using a mule during mage grind and I love Bishop so much <3 In this case I'm looking for some tips on funding a Bishop to reach around 1300 tma in order to farm efficiently. Isit better to grind lvl, upgrade gear or get Gen 30? (when ht is available) Any advice is good for me appreciate it guys :D
     
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    Well there's two ways to get 1300 TMA. Either get good gear or get to level 200, because AM/Bish rely a lot on their levels to get stronger. (Skill level too, max gene if you can).
     
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    Gettin lvl 200 sounds like a good goal, eventually i'll make billions just by getting to that lvl. Off to grind then thanks!
     
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    Having good gear will allow you to one hit skeles/ulu2 at earlier levels. If your gear is below average, it will require you to be at a higher level to one hit compared to a funded bishop. Each level is equal to 5 magic att since you gain 5 int per level. As of now, GEN30 is not worth the price compared to equipment and GEN20 since horntail is not fixed. You can always start saving up now and wait for horntail to be released as having GEN30 and MW20 will easily allow you to one hit skeles.
     
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    Yeah I'm aware that Gen 30 is simply not worth now due to the unavailability of HT. I'll be getting Gen 20 for now, then work on my equipment while grinding for levels :D
     
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    I don't know, I've made 95% of my money from just merching/scrolling which I thought has been pretty easy to do for the past 2 years, but if your all about the grind then kudos to you keep it up 0:), just wanted to throw out there you don't have to work as hard if your willing to learn a few small things
     
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    Hmm interesting... but merching and scrolling do require lots of time to scan the market and stuffs if i'm not wrong. I wouldn't really say either way of making money is less time consuming than the other, it's about what you enjoy spending your time on :p But yeah I've read lots of threads about scrolling and merching too maybe I shall really go and explore more myself :xD:
     
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    Merching is less time consuming than farming in terms of how much mesos you can make in a given time frame. The only thing about merching is that you actually have to put some thought into it unlike farming where you turn off your brain for a few hours and this seems to be where people just want to throw merching out the window. Merching is not only more profitable and but it's a lot less agonizing and more fun. There are dynamics to merching as you will need to gather info from time to time utilize some negotiating skills, and develop new ways of making profit which make it really interesting and fun. Also none of this is something I would consider even decently hard

    It's like working an hourly wage job vs being an investor. Proper investors make exponentially more money in the same time as people working unskilled hourly wages because the investors are willing to save some money to invest and are willing to utilize their brain to their advantage. You look at the proper investors of the world and I'm sure most of them will tell you that making money is very easy once you know how to do it.

    That being said there are a few people who enjoy the crazy repetitive grind that never changes and that's fine, I respect that. However in my near 2 years in this server I've seen a lot of my friends quit since they got so sick of farming/leeching to make money and their want for godly items never ceased.
     
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    I've also created bishops all my life in order to grind and man does it get boring.
    If I may ask, how did you get started in merching? you made it sound like a pretty good experience to go through, but is there like, a correct way to get started?
     
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    i got started in merching when I realized that the market in royals doesn't fluctuate all that much and items don't become obsolete here due to the fact that new items are rarely introduced. This makes it easy to remember prices and lowers the risk of your investments ending in a loss. After learning a few prices you would be surprised how often opportunities to buy stuff for low comes up. From there you just make sure to have enough money to actually make investments and not spend down to the dime, along with a few things you'll learn as you go and it's a pretty simple road from there
     
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    If your goal as a bishop is mainly to make money, I'd recommend funding yourself just enough to 1 hit ulu1/2 (by far the most profitable maps to leech/farm). Most likely you will have to get at least gen 20 and some eqps depending on your level. I would advise to not worry too much about splurging a bit on equips since mage gear is always in high demand so it's a easy resell once you've lvl'd up enough to cover the deficit with base AP. Gen 30 is absolutely unnecessary for you if you just want to make money, only consider getting it if hitting 200 is an immediate goal for you. As far as mage equips go, would recommend getting it in this progression wand>cape>earring>shield>glove>etc.
     
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    with out gen 30 and mw20 it took me a very long time to 1 hit skele

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    you don't need to 1 hit skele to make money though
     
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    1 hit ulu2 is hard for a bishop too
     
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    Sounds more like entrepreneurship rather than investment to me. Totally agree though if we use simple term with irl example it'll be something like Bosses > Workers kind of thing. I've always heard merching makes good fortune in almost any mmorpg. As much as I enjoy playing the game itself (grinding) than managing numbers and handling with people, I might wanna look more into this and give it a try since I can't really afford hundreds of hours of farming due to irl commitments -.-'
     
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    Yeah I understand anything below Gen 20 just requires an ridiculous amount of tma from gears. However as a Bishop it's really a struggle to even 1 hit ulu2 if u realise it.. ^_^' Thanks for the gear progression priorities though it makes sense to me and will definitely be following ur advice on that! :D
     
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    Rip lesson learnt
     
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    Even if ulu2 is relatively hard, ulu 1 is a pretty easy to reach goal. You make more money from npcing at ulu1 anyways and the leech prices for both areas are the same. Only down side is that it's a bit harder to find customers for ulu1 leech.
     
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    Just throwing out some numbers here. Written on 11/24/2017. Prices / spawn / drop may change in the future.

    1-hitting ULU1 requires around 1130 magic with gen20. I did this around LV153 (don't remember exactly) with a TMA26 shield, TMA 32 earring, and average gear in other places (+20 magic from NLC potion).
    • If you can 1-hit ULU1, you get around 60M per hour in NPCed equips and 5M per hour in meso pick up.
    • If you get any godly gears, it's extra money.
    • You can sell ULU1 leech at 50-60M solo or 30-35M split. However, since ULU1 leech is only 85-90, it may be hard to find buyers.

    1-hitting ULU2 requires around 1250 magic with gen20. I did this around LV164 with 6B in gear (+20 magic from NLC potion).
    • If you can 1-hit ULU2, you get around 55M per hour in NPCed equips and 5M per hour in meso pick up.
    • You can sell ULU2 leech at 50-60M solo or 30-35M split. Since ULU2 leeching is from LV 90 to 105, you almost never have difficulty finding buyers.
    • The higher level you are, the less exp buyer gets from your leech. Before you are LV180, there is usually no problem selling ULU2 split leech for 30M or 35M. After you are 180, some buyers may think your level is too high. However, they will still buy ULU2 split if you offer 25M.

    1-hitting skeles requires around 1300 magic with gen30 or 1358 magic with gen20. I got 1358 magic at LV178 with 9B in gear (+20 magic from NLC potion).
    • If you can 1-hit skeles, you get around 30M per hour in NPCed equips and a small amount of mesos picked up. (I don't go to the top and bottom platforms to pick up drops while selling leech at skeles. If you go there you can probably get more mesos from equip NPC, at the cost of slower leech for your buyers)
    • You can sell skeles leech at 80M solo or 40-45M split. You don't have problem finding skeles buyers, not matter how high your level is.
    • As you can see, 1-hitting skeles is equally, or even less, profitable than 1-hitting ULU2. It is sad that many high-level maps that require more magic to 1-hit (skeles, petri, OB2, Ob4) have terrible drops compared to ULU.
    • I would definitely advise against buying gen30 now (last one I saw sold for 10WS).
    • Even after HT comes out and gen30 drops to around 1B, you may still not want to buy it early. Instead of gambling 1B for 50% chance, you may find it easier to just sell ULU2 leech before LV180, and upgrade your gears so you naturally reach 1358 magic after LV180.

    After 1-hitting skeles, there are not many landmarks for Bishops to persue. If you saved tons of money, you may want to pass gen30 just to see higher damage, which I am sure pleases a lot of people.
    • You could aim to 1-hit chief memory guardian in memory lane 5. They have 59000 HP and requires around 1390 magic with gen20 to 1-hit. If you 1-hit them, you get decent money from NPCed equips, as well as many helm INT 60%. In one experiment, I got 10 helm INT 60% in one hour, which is worth 90M in market price.
    • To 1-hit petri, you need 1610 magic with gen30. Only a few Bishops on this server can do this.
     
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    Big thanks my friend the meso/hour for each map helps alot. In this case I'd aim to grind at ulu 2 until 180, then proceed to skele if I'm able to 1 hit them. Probably not gonna push my tma further for anything beyond skeles
     

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