The state of the NX economy

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    Wouldn't raising NX per vote solve the problem?

    Here's what won't work:

    1. tinkering with CS/WS gach rate => useless because it'll negatively affect AP resets availability
    2. mesos sink => doesn't solve anything, CS/WS will decrease in price yes, but people's wallet will be thinner as well
    3. lowering lv. req. to buy AP's which then will make AP price decrease and demand for CS/WS will decrease thereby reducing their price tags => ethics
     
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    Since Michael created the thread, AP resets have gone up to 14M and WS/CS over 500M...

    Things are just getting pricier and pricier, 30% Claw are ~27-30M, Earring Int 30% are touching the high-40M, GFA 30% hovering at 20M.

    Can we have an update from staff @Matt ?
     
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    I read the entire post. I love me some parenthetical commas.
     
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    I'm bumping this for two reasons; firstly, reckoning done earlier in this thread from staff have not come true;

    It has now been two updates since this was written, and there is neither of these features in sight. I cannot confirm the statement, but I have also been told that @Karven said in shoutbox something to the effect of Horntail's best estimate being January or February. I would assume that he has many tough bits and pieces to code in, but if this is indeed the case, something artificial needs to be introduced in the time being. Since the time of writing this post initially, White Scrolls and Chaos Scrolls have officially completely eclipsed the 500m/scroll mark, with the average price in the Free Market being around 520m as of November 23rd. AP Resets are now fairly locked in at 15m per unit as well. That combined with warnings from players who know the RWT market inside and out make the current situation for our economy downright terrifying. To top it all off, Chaos Scroll demand will increase even further with the release of a Christmas event this year, assuming that the Red Christmas Sock, one of the most popular items to Chaos in the game, returns this year.

    It's up to you which side you believe needs to be addressed more strongly; I've always held the opinion that the NX side of the economy is the best to manipulate as the largest price differences have been in NX-dependent items, however if meso inflation is also a potential issue that you feel is more easily addressed, by all means. At the current rate of inflation, assuming it is sustainable as we have been warned, we will see White Scrolls and Chaos Scrolls surpass the 600m mark by Christmas, and AP Resets closing in on 20m. No matter what you believe a Free Market should be, this is nearly double the price of what these items cost not much more than a year ago.

    Please do something.
     
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    So, what you guys are saying is I should sell all my stored up AP resets now before they go down? Thanks fam.
     
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    It seems like the biggest difference in the game from now and a year ago is no Horntail. Obviously that would help, but perhaps another squad boss implemented could do the same?
    Not Pink Bean. That's still a bit far off.
    But maybe Scarlion and Targa? Von Leon?
     
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    Von Leon wasn't a very popular boss and I don't remember a lot of people doing it. Scarga on the other hand was, the and addition of those maps would serve as great training areas. If LHC were to be implemented with Von Leon tho, I'd go with Von Leon. LHC is something that would help A LOT the higher level, unfunded, non-mage, community (Basically like the middle-class of Royals). And I'm saying this as a AM that heavily depends on selling leech as my main source of income.
     
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    I completely agree with @Michael. Problem right now in the server is majority of the players are using CS/WS as currency. There isn't enough CS/WS in free market to sell.

    My Suggestion is introduce: 500mill/ 1Billion Notes which can be obtained through an NPC. This way CS/WS will be sold to other players rather than sitting in one players inventory for months. Its crazy to see on Smega's people have 49 or 50 CS/WS to offer on an item. These CS/WS should be only used as scrolls not as currency. We have a supply and demand problem. I read one post where a player questioned this and GM said CS/WS hold value so they see no problem with it but you have to understand - If the "elite" players are holding 500 CS or WS as currency and trading each other with it then how will the market adjust to it?. This is simple economics.

    2. Introduce Gacaphon ticket drops in monsters. This will bring more tickets into the market and slight chance we will get more CS/WS into the market. Drop rate can be low at .01%.

    3. Horntail??????

    4.????
    5. Profit
     
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    Just raise the nx rate per vote to compensate for that new lv50 rule to buy ap resets.

    This whole economy went mental when level req. to buy ap resets increased.

    So essentially, we just need to restore balance. Just raise nx rate per vote... moar ap + moar ws/cs and all that without vote abusers!
     
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    Tomorrow will be one week since this honestly desperate plea for help. The issue has not stopped; CS/WS prices have raised further to approximately 535m and AP Resets are being sold for up to 16mil now in the six days since my last post. No staff have responded to this thread, so I will ask once more.

    Please do something.
     
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    I did reply to the thread stating we are working on solutions and that they should be coming soon. At least one influencing factor will be sorted in the next update which is due imminently.
     
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    You responded to this thread exactly three weeks ago and your reckoning was that a resolution to this issue would be not the next update but the one after. My post asking for something to be done was in response to both updates being pushed out and no solution in the slightest being presented, and my post was once again ignored for another week.

    You say that this update is due imminently; wonderful. I hope that this comes true; at least this time, we weren’t given an actual claim to be disappointed by other than vague imminence! I sure hope the at least one imminent feature, which I’m going to guess is definitely just one, is a big one. Thank you for your response, even though it felt like it had to be pried out of you.

    I do apologize if this post seems hostile; this issue is actually a huge fucking deal and probably more important than whatever else is on your to-do list, though. It’s definitely more important than anything from the last two updates. Just my honest feedback!
     
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    I just want the fast travel, merchants, and fm porting to go back to the way it was QQ
     
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    We have improved our vote abuse detection techniques and today over 200 accounts that were involved in major vote abuse have been banned.
     
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    Awesome!

    Can you make the report function work in game to report botters? I saw a botter in the mines few days ago, I was about to report them and it didn't work. I was too late to screenshot it as he cced. He didn't use Vac hack but to attack all around the map and loot with pet.
     
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    Wreck those mofos!!!! Give me back my 300m ws/cs!!!
     
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    nice job.
    your next job is add ap reset into albert. (ofc price for 10m or below)
    GL.
     
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    Make it 11m so 1m tax x AP Resets forcing players to sell at 10m ea,
    Oh and don’t forget ws/cs pls
     
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    Banning vote abusers should theoretically raise prices even higher :confused:
     
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