Hello again, I forgot about the requirement of HP washing for DK to make zerking easier and using it as my first character will not be really...good as it literally take months to HP wash it if I want to use my own NX. I guess it'll be my future main instead. Luckily I kinda like to support a party and be wanted, which is sort of the main reason I wanted to main a DK. And that leads me to a Bishop. However, seeing how expensive are the Int gears due to the HP washing meta, I'm kinda scared on how can I make one. So far, I aim to be either one of these Bishops. Either a "battle" bishop or a full support bishop, and I've bunch of questions for them. "Battle" Bishop 1) Seeing how Int gears / scrolls are so expensive due to HP washing meta, how can I utilize my funding more effectively? I've heard about godly low level robes but is there any other way to mitigate away from all these expensive HP washing gears? 2) Do people allow Bishops to attack in a boss run...? I know it sounds silly but back in the days there were some dramas complaining about bishops should just spam dispel and heal but not attack and I'm wondering how's it here. It'll be nice if someone can tell me an experience based on a random run with strangers and that'll definitely give the clearest answer. 3) Since there is not a lot of variety of luk scrolls here, and the fact that MW only scales on base stat but not the total stat, should I go pure int or low luk? And if low luk, what kind of endgame mage gear should I be aiming for and how many luk should I stop? Full support Bishop 1) Does Heal actually scales on max HP or TMA? I can't find any concrete answer on this so it'll be nice if someone can find it out by using a Bishop and a DK with Bishop swapping an endgame weapon with beginner wand while wearing nothing else and having HB on and off while using the same gear. 2) Is a full support Bishop actually preferred since there are so many HP washers now? At least in Zakum runs since HT is not available now and Krexel seems to be just a puppet. 3) If 1) is actually based on HP but not TMA and I decided to scroll all my gears with HP instead, is it still possible for me to 1HKO most of the high level leeching spots? Perhaps I can have two sets of equipment to swap around but it'll be great to know that I can still 1HKO the spots without swapping or needing another set of equipment. And, anymore foresights on these two builds? Thank you all for reading this, any help will be much appreciated.
1) doros is an alternative towards bath robes that are usually used for hp wash, other gears however such as shields, eye accessory and earrings are used for hp washing so they are expensive. 2)no u dont attack as a bishop here, only hs and dispel 3) pure int 1)doesn't really matter coz you won't be healing at any boss run (rarely and sometimes never if your party has a drk zerking and the scaling, it should be tma (might be wrong), EDIT: you have to heal the seduce mule in HT once he is seduced 2)the only time a bishop will ever attack is clearing the cornians in horntail thats all 3)you will be using genesis to leech/farm so heal has no use in a sense of leeching/farming bishops are only hs mule/leechers here (most of them)
The very best bishops at the highest level of bossing do attack. This depends on whether your bossing patterns want to kill the boss with the most efficiency or they want a few million more exp for themselves. At endgame, people don’t really care if the bishop spams Genesis on Zak arms and it’s optimal to kill the arms as quickly as possible to kill the three main bodies. Use your judgement whether or not to use Genesis to hit the Zak summon mobs. If you can’t 1 hit them, only do it during a weapon cancel. Krex is just sit there and HS and Genesis the summon mobs. HT is far more involved if you want to be good at it. You can watch the guild run I was in, linked in my signature, but the summary is don’t die, make sure you HS, pay close attention to the sed mule to heal them and make sure they don’t die, and, if you have 1607 magic, use Genesis to 1 hit the Dark Wyverns. If you don’t, stay far away from them because they attack with simultaneous dispel and it’s very easy to die if you get hit even once after that. Also learn the animations and sounds to the mapwide Head B and Left Hand dispels. Very important that you notice when dispel hit so you can immediately recast Magic Guard. So start out HT by taking the lowest risk and not dying and then as you get experience and that magic requirement, kill the Dark Wyverns to maximize efficiency by leaving everyone else to deal their DPS and if it’s done right, no one gets dispelled.
Thanks for the long explanation. The HT explanation is particularly useful. After doing a bit of researches, looks like full support bishop with tons of HP will not be viable since heal amount is not based on HP. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/924697-maplestory/41896344 https://forums.mapletip.com/index.php?/topic/71611-hp-cleric-heal-skill-results/ Still need a few more answer / information / opinions on the rest of the questions tho.
I'm a battle bishop. I warn my party first, just so there isn't any confusion. This is particularly important at Zak, where mage ultimate skills can dc other players.
1) Seeing how Int gears / scrolls are so expensive due to HP washing meta, how can I utilize my funding more effectively? I've heard about godly low level robes but is there any other way to mitigate away from all these expensive HP washing gears? Nope, if you buy any mage gear you won't be able to use them for washing unless you're going to wash a mage since they'd be stuck to that class. Only way to have dual utility equips is buy/scroll common equips. 2) Do people allow Bishops to attack in a boss run...? I know it sounds silly but back in the days there were some dramas complaining about bishops should just spam dispel and heal but not attack and I'm wondering how's it here. It'll be nice if someone can tell me an experience based on a random run with strangers and that'll definitely give the clearest answer. I don't have much experience with bossing in a party in Royals, but for the few runs I've been on, as a AM I was "allowed" to attack, but that's mainly because I was either with friends or guild mates. I'm assuming you should be "allowed" to cast Genesis if mobs spawn to keep them away from the rest of the party since that would be pretty helpful. Some people might not like it because they d/c because of Ultimates so your best bet is to ask first. As in participating using Angel Ray, I don't see why not. Small damage is better then none imo. 3) Since there is not a lot of variety of luk scrolls here, and the fact that MW only scales on base stat but not the total stat, should I go pure int or low luk? And if low luk, what kind of endgame mage gear should I be aiming for and how many luk should I stop? Go LUKless, but by the time you'll be 200 you'd be force to go low-LUK since the stat cap is at 999 (For base stats) and you'd have some extra APs to invest in LUK. For endgame equips, without going into exact numbers, my personal opinion is that you should try to get to 1 hit Skeles asap, either by getting better gear or leveling quick (Or both), then from there on focus on perfecting your items one by one.
Is this due to them having potato rigs or is that a client issue? I want to avoid those common HP washing gears since they are the expensive ones. But I'm wondering what kind of equipment should I look for if that's the case, and I'm not even sure if I've to scroll them myself or there'll be cheaper ones floating around the market.
They got rotten potato rigs because I got a potato one and I never d/c because of Meteor. Buying will always be cheaper than scrolling unless you’re very lucky. Decent doros robes are the most popular, anything else usually requires a higher amount of LUK that isn’t easy to get without a HTP, not impossible tho.
Luk sources for bishops: Zhelm Rudolph's Shiny Nose (christmas event) Deputy Star Event rings (only pumpkin ring is currently available) Krex ring LVL120 medal Elemental Wand 7/8 (both more expensive, weaker and rarer than 5/6 so not recommended) My lukless archmage with all of the above has 40 luk, enough to wear starlight/moonlight robe, dark noel, esther shield and dark moon shoes. The only benefit to these mid-luk equips is they're usually a tad cheaper and 1~2 int higher perfect than the low luk equipment. Really high luk gear just gets npc'd by most people so it's hard to find. With just an average zhelm, deputy star and lvl120 medal (4+22) you can equip the following: Doros/Doroness robe - 25 luk to equip. Up to 9 int clean. Mystic Shield - 22 luk to equip, up to 7 int clean. Maple shield is better because of its 10 slots though. Jewel shoes - 23 luk to equip. Blue is most common, up to 7 int clean. No good low level gloves. Glitter gloves might be cheaper (but rarer) than the low level gloves though. As for your other questions: There's pretty much int scrolls for every armor slot so it's always better to go with that. It can be cheaper to make your own gear but it's also risky. Might as well ask your Zak party if you can spam genesis during arms, it doesn't d/c me so I'd allow it if no one else in the party thought they would disconnect. If it does, just means you can't genesis - feel free to use holy arrow.
Thank you all for the replies. Now I've one last question. What would be the most cost-effective way to purchase my gears now before I upgrade them to the endgame stat? I don't think I'll fiddle my luck with scrolls, as the Lady Luck never come to my side...I think I can have around 500~700m depends on my luck. Edit : So far I've gotten the follow equipment : TMA 167 Wand 6 44m TMA 14 PGC 44m 7 Int Mystic Shield 20m Self-scrolled 23 Int Doros Robe ~230m (Had to scroll two robes and sold the remaining resources) And now I'm left with ~260m. With zak helm that'll left me with 200m. Should I buy something else or should I start saving? Earrings and gloves are overwhelmly expensive it seems...
