Remove Monster Sacks (From LMPQ at least (or only))

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Should we remove monster sacks?

  1. Remove all monster sacks. (Includes Gachapon Sacks)

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    2.4%
  2. Remove LMPQ monster sacks. (Excludes Gachapon Sacks)

    9 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Keep all monster sacks. (And be more lenient with GM events)

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    76.2%
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  1. Furries
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    Don't harrass other players.
    Don't use summoning bags in the FM. (During GM Events needs to be a thing)
    And last, but not least--as Will Wheaton says: Don't be a dick.

    After "events" that happened during July 22nd I believe that I would be in MapleRoyals best interest to remove the monster sacks from the game.

    Ever since the buff of LMPQ everyone has been receiving a large amount of summoning sacks and using them to harass players and to be a dick to them by either killing players or ruining the events that GMs organize during the day.

    In the last week I have seen over 10 smegas talking about "drop games" in KPQ which obviously means "summoning party" to anyone who knows about MapleStory. Before the LMPQ got buffed there was absolutely none of these kind of smegas. Recently I just made a new character and was at KPQ and three times I was killed by a balrog being summoned.

    You can say that it's like good old GMS with people summoning on AFK people but it's getting way out of hand. Just yesturday on July 22nd Manny attempted to hold an event but it was cancelled due to "trolls" summoning these sacks that they were handed to.

    I want to be able to enjoy events that GMs take their time to make and if it can be ruined by a single person who wants to be an ass then I want these sacks remove from the game because they only cause grief.

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    On another note if you don't plan to remove them.

    Tell your GMs to not call the whole community unappreciative because you guys cancelled an event over a single "internet troll". This is the internet and there are hundred of players with different morals everywhere who may not even know how to speak english. If you are going to leave MapleRoyals open to a worldwide community you should understand that not everyone is going to play nicely.

    Even during games of RR you have people walking all the way to the right or sitting on chairs to not be seduced but those events weren't cancelled. It's unfortunate but people can not be controlled.

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    There's a small rant. I figured this would be the best place to put it. It's just feedback and maybe a little criticism. I don't mean harm. Please critique me.

    (I also don't know how to make a poll but it would be)
    • Remove all monster sacks (Includes Monster Galore and Gach)
    • Remove all monster sacks from LMPQ only (Excludes Galore and Gach sacks)
    • Keep all monster sacks but be more lenient and not cancel events over it
     
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    I'll make sure we can disable monster sacks in the future.


    Edit: Implemented.
     
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    That sounds like the best thing that can happen. Way better option than removing sacks completely if you are able get something like that to work.

    Thank you for reading.
     
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    Reducing the availability of summoning bags in LMPQ is also something that should be possible, if things are generally getting out of hand.
     
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    I agree with Furries, however, removing monster sack completely isn't quite a good idea. I think we should still keep Brand New Monster Galore in the game because the mobs drop NX. On the other hand, the monster sacks from LMPQ should be removed, no doubt.
     
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    I think they're part of the nostalgia factor, personally.
    Anyone remember the days of summoning balrogs in LPQ while waiting for a party to get out?
    Used to happen at kerning all the time too.
    disabling for GM events is the fairest option, but removing them entirely? No thanks. I find them fun to play with and it's fun memories.
     
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    It's one thing to summon now and again, however being a victim of summoning sacks today. I must say the constant summoning in maps simply to kill other users is rather unacceptable and can be seen as a sign of harassment.

    Three times today I was summoned on in Ludi by people, while i was AFK.

    I've seen other people summon repeatedly in Kerning down at the KPQ spot, killing users repeatedly for kicks... It's one thing to summon one sack, but to do it repeatedly.

    C'mon guys, be nice to the newbs.
     
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    There is nothing nostalgic about it, this time around.

    It is blatant harassment. You literally cannot afk in a main city (mainly kerning) anymore. I used to kpq with people on my priest but now won't step foot in that city because I get killed every single time I go there. Being forced to afk in the cash shop (which will make you crash 9 times out of 10) is a PITA. Having to get off my chair to cast magic guard is also annoying and easy to forget when you're socializing in an area that should be safe.
     
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    ehm maybe you could stop afk? maybe hang on a rope?
    sure people use them to kill others but what are you supposed to do with them use them for exp?

    You loose 5-10% exp and you do kpq, sorry to say so but its not hard to get that back. Well magic guard last 10 minutes and with it you are the only class that will survive anything at that level (almost)

    And only safe zone in the game is free market :)

    Ohh btw there are cash shop items that protect your exp when you die
    (the free NX)
     
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    Losing 5 to 10% EXP is pretty crucial for later levels.

    I'd just disable them from FM if they aren't disabled there already. If you need to AFK, click Trade.
     
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    I'll never forget we had the first level 200 bishop on our server, ( Khaini ), called KhainPriest. We found her afk once and we started summong bags on her, we actually killed her.

    Go figure how badass you feel killing the first level 200 as a lv 50 fighter. f3
     
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    To be honest I don't know what's funny about killing noobs at KPQ.
     
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    Summoning monsters on someone isn't harassment.
    Chasing them around and purposely summoning them on top of the same person repeatedly because they want to kill them? Is harassment.

    Idling in town has always run the risk of having things summoned on you. Some quests allow you to get summon bags, such as alien sacks. Gacha always gives you them too. It was like this in GMS, why change it now? Disable them in FM if they aren't already and afk in the FM. It's easy.
     
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    I'm not most concerned about losing EXP. I'm more concerned about having to move to channel 2 in KPQ because channel 1 is flooded with mobs and people looking to summon their Black Sack that they just got from LMPQ.

    The amount of sacks you get from LMPQ is also a little high and I don't recall them ever being an item you could get back on GMS from the LMPQ. Since that LMPQ buff/fix the market is now flooded with sacks. The only thing sacks are ever used for is for bad intents such as killing an AFK etc. I have no problem with people getting sacks from gachapon though since that's a lot rarer and monster galore gives lots of NX.

    I agree Silachan it's definitely nostalgic but it happens a little too often. LMPQ back during GMS days did not have monster sacks at all. It had blood snowboards and other items to give. So, it was a lot harder to get a sack back then. It's too easy currently and it's causing a lot of harassment to happen.

    Also, than you very much Gi for getting that issue fixed! Hopefully it works great and now there won't be any more disturbances during events!
     
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    I'm a bishop. I didn't kpq for exp, I did it to help people.


    Summoning sacks were a fun little surprise in GMS. They were not common at all. Nobody did quests, especially the ludi/omega ones. Spawning them in the LPQ map was fun. Nobody was afk and you had a party that could potentially save you. I've been summoned on in random maps outside ch1. The motive for using them here is entirely malicious. Having to go to the FM when you need to afk is ridiculous. This is carebearstory, not an open world PvP game.
     
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    Exactly! It was a lot rarer. Now you can get few sacks from just one hour at Ludi and people either sell them for a profit to people who are going to use them to kill people, AFK or not, or they are going to just use their sacks themselves. No one uses them for any other reasons.

    (Besides Monster Galore for NX)

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    Stop AFKing? God forbid I have to do something in real life.

    As far as Magic Guard, I don't have that on my warrior, thief, or hunter, and once my MP hits zero on my Mage, I die.

    Cash Shop items to protect my EXP would be great if I actually had NX to spare. And leaving myself in the FM is useless since 9/10 times I DC or come back to a sh*t ton of spam.

    When it comes down to it, you just can't trust people on this server to be respectful and do the right thing anymore.
     
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    If anyone ever wants to AFK just do it at the Fm.
     
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    People should be able to AFK whenever they want without having to go to FM. I don't get why some people want to justificate this acts. Spawning mobs on people that can kill them is something. Spawning mobs on people that can't hit them qualifies as harrasment in my opinion, you might find it funny, I don't think they do.
     
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    I'm looking into lowering the amount of summoning bags available from LMPQ rewards.
     
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