HT books

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HT books

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    The another 2-3 months is a holiday season

    my bishop from old source still doesn't have gen30 too. My advice: stay at ulu1 cause it is better than ulu2 unless u have the capabilities to 1hit skeles
     
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    How about use the chair gach npc and make that a HT book gach npc? Books includes every single skill books available and make them none tradeable.

    This will serve as a mesos sink and won't destroy the HT bossing market later because the gach book are not tradeable.
     
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    It's still unfair towards new players. Can't get MW20 for that extra 5% INT during level up as hp washing character, can't deal as much damage to old players who have maxed attack skills, resulting in more time taken to kill a boss. A temporary solution should have been given way back then, but it's never too late to implement one if it's simple to code them in into the current game.

    Disregard last sentence if coding it is hard or simply too time consuming.
     
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    YOU ARE SO DARN GOOD!! 200m per roll, im down!

    let's not talk about making it possible, will take too much time. There was chair gacha and it came abruptly.
     
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    I'd like to point out that it took about a year for HT to be implemented un the first place, after myself and many others already got to 200. If we can do that without HT (or Krex or ToT or Toad for that matter) and the books that come with it new players can wait another 3 months. It seems kinda over the top for people to stop playing a character because they don't have all the books for it, you don't NEED them to succeed still.

    Not to mention that no one HAS to buy books at these prices. Sure, books help you character progress, but that doesn't mean you can't progress your character without them. A stance I've seen so many people take that baffles the hell out of me.
     
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    Kill me, I will drop some books
     
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    I believe 99% of people know they don't NEED to do something.
    I'm not rushing on leveling my char because of the lack of books, doesn't mean everybody should.

    But pointing out that some people PLAYED without something also doesn't mean everybody must PLAY without something.
    Not having something because there wasn't it at all before is WAY different than having something taken away after already having it.

    Since the devs never give any ETA about things being fixed, some players just try to find a way to solve it temporary.
    That doesn't mean you HAVE to do such things.
     
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    Off topic but last I checked there were still a decent amount of snipe 30s for 150m in the FM, which isn't bad.

    Also I'm not trying to point out you directly, just saying that soooo many people are acting like they can't progress because of the lack of books when many players got to end game without them. I also never said people must play without it, just that we can wait.

    I should also point out that HT was a thing pre wipe, so people who did HT then had it taken away then had to wait over a year for IT. While having to deal with a wipe as well.

    Finally the players aren't solving anything by suggesting alternatives, they're just suggesting alternatives. It would be the staff who solve the problem by implementing an alternative, which would likely take a while to implement and take time away from the real problem.
     
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    Finally the players aren't solving anything by suggesting alternatives, they're just suggesting alternatives. It would be the staff who solve the problem by implementing an alternative, which would likely take a while to implement and take time away from the real problem.[/QUOTE]

    I’m not convinced it would take too terribly long to implement. And I don’t think anybody is solving anything, however the amount of attention this thread got I believe is evident of the problem that is going on - there is an imbalance in the economy. Old players with their level 30 skill books have a much higher predisposition to make more money, solely based on the fact that they can deal more damage easier (bossing faster, selling better leech, etc). I find the only ones who don’t have a problem with HT taking long, are those players who have maxed their skills.. :/
     
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    Problem is...we don't trust the staff timetable, no one does and no one should. Even the staff is unsure. Who says there won't be additional problems once they implement the new auto-ban/security infrastructure thus further delaying HT? There are just way too many uncertainties for anyone to come and tell us
    "just wait it out dude, HT's coming soon!". Like no thank you lol.

    Whoever says "HT's about to get released in 2-3months, players can wait" is madly optimistic. After all, it's just a rumor.

    I don't think implementing HT book Gachapon would be complicated or time consuming, they already did it with chairs. The main code is there, it's a matter of changing the library to HT books. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

    I also don't see any downside of having a temporary HT Book Gachapon economically speaking. If anything, CS/WS will decrease in price which would be welcomed.

    If it wasn't a problem with chairs, I don't see why there would be any for HT books. Make them untradeable if you think it'll negatively affect the economy.

    HT Book Gach would certainly serve a better meso sink than those fast-travel tickets that basically no one buys...
     
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    We aren't going to be implementing an alternative source for HT books. The autoban system that we are wanting to implement before releasing HT is close to being ready, we are just ironing out some false positives that are occurring from a couple of skills, once that is done it should be ready for release. The autobanner (specifically damage validation) is the most complicated aspect of the game that our developer has had to code thus far.

    For an example of how it's progressing; Today our developer was looking into why Hurricane was occasionally flagging up as invalid damage, at the beginning of the day we had no idea what was causing it, but we have now narrowed it down to it occurring only when a mob has a specific combination of 4 mob skills activated: WeaponAttackUp, MagicAttackUp, WeaponDefenseUp, and MagicDefenseUp. Now we just need to figure out why this combination of skills causes Hurricane to throw invalid damage, implement the fix, and move on to the next thing.

    I'm pretty hopeful that we will be seeing the release of HT within a couple of weeks.
     
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