Any MM around wanna share some of their scrolled items for something I'm working on in the guide? (just SS of the item when you hover over it in game!)
Xbow, overall, helmet, etc. I want some non-terrible real life examples of stuff people have in game to show what people might aim for.
Excellent guide @Evan. I think you covered the class quite well without making the guide too bloated, so props to that. I do have a couple of questions though (anyone can feel free to answer them): Wasn't the standard practice for a Sniper/Marksman to usually set Blizzard to 21 instead of 30? My understanding is that Blizzard is not a hard hitting skill, and does not crit, which made it more of a utility move (as opposed to Inferno for Ranger/Bowmaster). So in that sense, the general goal was to just reach level 21, as that is when the freeze time increased to the max of 3 seconds. That way, you would have 9 points you could spend freely (usually on Thrust or Mortal Blow). Please forgive me if this was updated in the new source; I've just recently come back and I haven't been able to locate all of the skill changes from the release to today. I'm currently recreating a new MM which is actually HP washed (RIP first character), but is there a realistic HP goal which I should aim for? I commonly see 30k HP thrown around as the ultimate goal, but I don't think I will ever have the patience or time to save up enough for AP resets for that. Should I be going for 9k? 10k? 15k? PS: Gobies are a fairly good (and classic) spot to train 80+ until you can pick off Newts. As long as you have AE maxed, and a fairly good freeze time on Blizzard, you can freeze all of the Gobies before they swim away and AE them. Bonefish are a bit annoying but you can freeze them before they weapon cancel and finish them off with Strafe. Most likely not as fast as the other options, but its definitely lighter on the pots (not to mention potential profit; Overall INT 60% drop from Bonefish).
Uh, aside from Chaos Scrolls you can't do this. Only other thing I think worth adding is you can buy blue arrows (+4 attack) from Doran in Showa.
Ahh yeah that was a mistake. I fixed it in the scrolling section but not there. >_> took me 10 minutes to find it till I thought to ctrl+f and search the BBcode. Unless you want to max some other skills (there isn't a lot to add to in 3rd job). I found MB to be lack luster because I was super anal about never being too close to mobs. There's a case to be made for adding more or less (earlier and later) but unless youre someplace where it's imperative to freeze before killing (I used it a lot in ToT) blizzard is really taken over in droves by your 4th job bird (auto blizz <3). Strafe and AE are your bread and button killing skills in 3rd. edit: I'm under the impression gobies are kind of broken right now here (something to do with the way they swim/dont target people). As for washing, it all depends on what you want to do. I like 30k because I'm a masochist (just kidding, it's basically free here and doesnt cost real money). However unless you want to toad you (or plan on killing PB someday) I would say just wash enough to kill HT (with or without HB your preference). Up to you though, depends on how you want to go about your bossing. I think I said it in my guide, but I was always a grinder and not a bosser so it's important to take that into consideration with builds and stuff. Spoiler: HP goals 6.1k HP: Horntail with Hyper Body 9.1k HP: Horntail without Hyper Body 10.9k HP: Castellan (Toad) with Hyper Body 11.5k HP: Pink Bean with Hyper Body 14.5k HP: Bigfoot without Hyper Body (Survive Bigfoot touch damage) 16.3k HP: Castellan (Toad) without Hyper Body 18.4k HP: Pink Bean without Hyper Body 18.750k HP: Anego without Hyper Body (Survive Anego slap damage) 23k HP: Horntail and The Boss (Grandpa) without Hyper Body (Survive Horntail Head B touch damage) From https://royals.ms/forum/threads/hp-washing-calculator.111127/#post-620097
Thanks for the reply @Evan. Reading your answer, I suppose that it really comes down to whether you really care for more points on Mortal Blow or not (in the majority of the cases, you'd be applying the points to Thrust). As mentioned earlier too, you normally don't want to max Golden Eagle out anymore either (I still tend to have most of my memories as a Sniper pre-4th job with max eagle), so those extra 9 points really aren't necessary as it used to be. I guess it really depends on your play style and what you deem important. Just thought it was probably something to consider as another alternative than to just max out Blizzard. At the end of the day though, you'd most likely max Thrust in the end, and that's probably all that matters! I can't tell you about the state of Gobies currently as a Sniper/MM, but I took a trip there with my FP not too long ago, and I can definitely say that they were targeting me after I blew up the houses. They still spawn as a big cluster before rushing away, which is the exact time frame you want to freeze them anyway. I'd love to test this again, but this time around, my XBowman will be pretty useless since I'm building him to be as HP washed as (reasonably) possible. I'd be glad if someone could try this out with a new Sniper character and let us know how it goes. Lastly, thanks for the HP required for bosses (with and without hyper body). I guess for whats currently available on the server, surviving a hit from BF without Hyper Body would be the most ideal situation without going too crazy. For me though, I usually see things as a cost in time vs. a cost in mesos, so as someone with little time available, trying to find that nice balance would be nice. Otherwise, I probably wouldn't find time to play the MM at all! Also one last thing that's very minor but I think it may be worth mentioning, with max Thrust and an easy +10 speed from anywhere else, you should scroll your pet equips (if you do buy it for your pets) with jump. Having extra jump isn't incredibly important, but I personally think that you ideally want to cut as much time climbing ladders/ropes as possible. It only shaves off a fraction of a second, but it really does save time in the long run (and you don't necessarily have to keep getting on your mount over and over when grinding). I did read that you prefer speed shoes over DEX shoes, but for me, getting that extra jump is much more difficult than getting speed. As a warrior, I would probably argue more for speed shoes since you neither get a speed or jump buff. Edit: If you can edit your tags for this thread, I'd include sniper as well.
Early on it might be. As you get gear though, the only thing that requires STR is your xbow, and you'll accumulate a lot through your equips (HTP+Zhelm+a decent overall will put you at 45-50 alone) Then there's shoes, rings, gloves, etc. I don't have the math on hand, but at somepoint adding a some str to equip a perfect Neschere or Dragon Shiner has to outweigh the attack on a perfect nishada. A pyrope xbow might be a different story with the whole faster attack speed, but that's a lot hard to get perfect
Outweighing the attack is one thing, as mentioned weapon speed is something to consider as well. Also you can afford to scroll your overalls with dex instead of strength! Even with sufficient funds, finding a perfect pyrope crossbow might prove to be a challenge as they come in a highly limited supply. (only once a year during anniversary events) Personally my marksman is using a neschere with 4 base strength, and this is achievable even without a Godly htp. TLDR; the optimal endgame scenario for a mm is using a perfect pyrope with an overall scrolled with dex, if not it's fine to go the neschere/shiner crossbow with as low strength, and using an overall scrolled with strength.
Right now, this is my AP distribution and also my weapon, not sure if i'm doing ok at being 4 STR at this lvl.
The optimal endgame scenario is actually using a perfect dragon xbow and a SI mule , to match the maple pyrope's speed !
