Super donor forum status

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  1. SorakaFlackaFlame
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    After reading a bunch of these comments, I'll have to agree with what most players are saying that this will only lead to bragging rights.

    The blood donor comparison is not something I would condone. There are various reasons to donate blood depending on the type of person you are, where as in royals, there is only 1 true reason to donate. Swag.

    Like I definitely didn't donate to "help" the server. I donated to make myself look better in game and to belong to a new tier of exclusiveness that can only be experienced by donating. My first thought wasn't to help the server, though I'm sure that there have been people who donated for that reason.

    If there was a top 10 list, It would only increase my want to belong into another category of exclusivity. It's not a bad thing for the server but I think that would create more problems then solve.

    If however, the staff wanted to thank the people who donated and released a top 10 list of their own accord, I think that would be fine. But that would still be only for bragging rights. I think the donators are aware of their contribution and they're given thanks by being granted exclusive items in game to show off in game.

    What I think should happen indefinitely, is that the prices for a lot of items get reworked because some items are far too expensive for no real reason. Honestly, there should be one fixed price, regardless of item category, or at the very least reduce the most expensive ones.
     
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    I say make it a tiered system. like "Platinum Donator" "Gold Donator" etc..
    Put an option is the CP to give the user the choice of whether they want it displayed or not.

    Let people brag about how much they donated why not? it only helps the server, so long as they stay within the rules(no harrasement etc) then it shouldn't really matter.

    Honestly I'd be more inclined to donate if there was a system like this, instead of the little badge you get. But then again I feel like the whole forum needs an update.
     
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    What's the point? I don't get it. Seems like it's for people who want to feel like they're the king of the hill.
     
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    Yea and those people will donate more to stay up there. It can also encourage others to donate.
    Donating is good for the server, especially with all the lag lately
     
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    Then, Whats the point of any ranking anywhere? This isnt about being a top dog. This is about saying thanks to those who decided to contribute a little more than some others. Why must we think so bad about others that they will brag? Did you guys forget that donating is a matter of kindness?
     
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    Go make a thread thanking those who have donated then. ~f3
     
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    I see where you are coming from but there's a big difference between a simple thank you and a permanent label given by the staff as a thank you for the amounts of contribution.
     
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    As I said in a post before on the previous page, contribution is more than just monetary. Some people like myself would LIKE to donate more- but are unable to because money is very tight. I'm lucky I was able to spare a few dollars to donate in the first place. Once more, you'd be basically singling out the people who have the money floating around versus the people who can't afford to donate. Contributing to the server isn't about how much money you have to spend and donate. It's about sticking through the bad times, helping report bugs when they show up, giving back to the community. Going out of your way to thank the GMs when they help you out with something, or to appreciate the updates and fixes they do. Being patient when things go wrong instead of complaining and throwing a fit- it's all contributing in a way even if it isn't monetary.

    As a general thing, I tend to very dislike anything that favors someone who has more money than another. Being able to donate more than someone else isn't necessarily the way to see how much someone -wants- to contribute to the server. If I had the money I'd gladly donate a certain amount per month to help- but I don't. Same goes for many people I would assume.

    I might have gone off tangent a little bit, but the idea is there. It generally feels bad to not be 'recognized' solely because you don't have money to spend freely, even when you freely contribute and help the server out in other ways. It may not be "pay to win" in the normal sense, but it's "pay more to be noticed and to feel special compared to other people".
     
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    What if people can't spend another €5,00? It's nothing different. You have a donor status that some can not afford. Should we take that away as well? Because it's ''pay to notice''? Some people can't afford a donor status. But why aren't you referring to those, why are you not against that status? It's also pay to notice. There's a reason you get the status, and it has nothing to do with attention. If it did, then why did people even donate before we could receive items from it? It's an act of kindness which is okay to be applaud.
     
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    Raddy logic: If it actually does become a competitive thing, you guys make more money, so why wouldn't you do it?

    But really: It's not really a bad idea at all. I'm sure the people who have donated a large quantity would love some sort of sign of appreciation. Instead of being a competition, you could put a set amount for super donor, like $40 or something. It's obviously not high priority, but I doubt anyone will be OFFENDED by it, and the recipients will sure as hell be appreciative.
     
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    1. Like a lot of other people are saying, this seems like an unnecessary thing to add. We already have donor status and items going on in the forums/game and that alone is a great way to recognize and appreciate those who gave a monetary contribution to support the server.

    2. Matt said himself that this would be difficult to implement correctly as many donators do not possess forum accounts. And as John and Narutard said, some may be uncomfortable taking a spot as a top donor, this means that this so called top 10 list may not accurately depict this as people may choose to opt out of it.

    3. Take into account that many donate for the aesthetic pixels as well. For all we know we could be giving recognition to people who simply wanted to be the best fm whore in the entire server. Not something that I would personally respect. While it's great that they're supporting the server, the ulterior motive of wanting donator items is quite omnipresent.
    I myself donated for some items as well, and knew that it would help the server that I enjoyed playing on. So I essentially killed two birds with one stone, and I was satisfied with that, it's a nice system.

    4. The very owner of the server himself is aware that this might increase the amount of donations, but doesn't seem to approve of the idea.

    tl;dr: donator items and the forum status are quite sufficient ways of appreciating our donors. We don't need a top 10 list for the unremarkable achievement of giving more money than other people .-.
     
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    Finally some Cons here that I can respect.
    When people started about this causing people to brag. It just sickened me that people had presumptions that some would do it for such purpose. When we first came into the server, we didn't get donor items. We just donated to support the server. I can't believe bragging is even a point to this. Who are we to make such presumptions about people, assuming they would do it for bragging? That's just plain pessimism. Can't we look at the good side of people?

    Perhaps the unnecessary bit is a bit off because it could be looked at it both ways. I see it as a way of smiling when you look at the status. You're happy you contributed a lot and this status will show your contribution to the server.
    We do it for the sake of the server, but that doesn't mean a little extra wouldn't be appreciated. I'm happy I'm not the only one feeling that way.
     
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    While it's great to know that you see the topic of donating in a similar way as I do... I hope that you understand that my post was pretty much entirely in opposition of your suggestion. I DO NOT think we need this at all. lol
    The current donator system is fine the way it is right now imo
     
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    Yes, I only said I respected your cons (opinion on this), you didn't make any presumption of anyone bragging. I read your post. If you read my comment thoroughly you would see that I was pointing at those who made such presumptions, and not towards you. I shouldn't have quoted it like this. I was just talking to the community that made these presumptions.
     
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    Matthew 6:3 boys, the wise man has spoken.
     
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    I don't like this idea at all.

    Those who donate because they wanted donator items have already been rewarded. They got their pretty pixels.

    Those who donate because they genuinely want to help the server have already been rewarded with their own good deed.

    That leaves those who donate because they want recognition. Why not start a thread in the spam section if you really must? You could make your own ranking (no guarantee people will take it seriously and tell the truth) in the first post of it, and get people to post and brag about their donations in the thread. That way, only those who want to be involved have to be.

    The idea of a super donator status initially sounds interesting, but it'd have to be set pretty high (e.g. $100?), and I think any donators who have donated that much would far better reasons than recognition. And having such a thing to try and encourage big donations is a can of worms best left closed.



    Also, if we had super donator status, inb4
    Yeah... no thanks.
     
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    Can you stop making presumptions of people you don't know? It sickens me that you assume that this is for recognition purposes. Please read every comment thoroughly. It has been said already, you don't need to repeat everyone else. Your pessimism doesn't help anything nor anyone. I can respect that you disagree with my opinion like galbixd did, but you're presuming that people would do it for recognition. And that sickens me. Like I said before. Look at the greater side of people, don't presume such things when you don't know those people.
     
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    I'm not making assumptions about you personally, I'm making valid assumptions about human behaviour as a whole.


    I have a possible compromise. From my understanding, the reason you want this is for interest purposes. How about a list of the largest donations WITHOUT names on it? And possibly some statistics about server donations? That would satisfy interest purposes without causing other problems. :)
     
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    Couldn't care less about the amounts specifically. I just like to smile at peoples contribution. Which shows better with this status.
     
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    btw, how much have you donated, out of curiosity?
     
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