With the recent thread asking the community about what should be worked on next, the majority of votes were towards login server improvements and Crimsonwood Keep Party Quest. Also, Kevin's latest comment on this thread suggests that these two features are already being worked on as we speak: I am by no means against what the majority of the community want. In fact, I think both these updates would be a great addition to MapleRoyals. However, with Guild Party Quest being voted second lowest (at the time of writing this thread), it makes me wonder when this will actually get added (probably not till Summer, or even later?). My main issue with this is that currently the Assassinate 30 skill book is only obtainable through Guild Party Quest. This an important DPS skill for Shadowers, and we are unable to max it out, even with new source being out for 1 year and 3 months. Correct me if I am wrong, but we are now the only class which doesn't have all of our 4th job attacking mastery books available in-game. While I am grateful for the recent change to Boomerang Step being useable near ledges, we are still a weak class, and it doesn't help that we can't max out one of our main attacking skills. I therefore propose that Assassinate 30 gets temporarily (or permanently) made available through an alternative method, so that Shadowers can max out this skill without having to wait several more months or year(s). Oddly enough, if you check out the bbb.hidden-street database, this book is dropped by Chief Oblivion Guardian at OB4/OB5. As far as I am aware, this was purposely removed as mentioned by Matt in this thread. Why this decision was made I am not sure, but it would make sense to add it back to this monsters drop list. Of course, if you would prefer to add to a different mob or made available through another way, that would work too. Assassinate 30 on bbb.hidden-street: As always, thanks for your consideration!
There are several other skills that are GPQ exclusive like Ifrit, Taunt and Ninja Storm (they are not as important to their classes though)
yes, most of the community seems to think GPQ is no big deal but for us shadowers it would mean the world for us to be able to max assassinate.
Yes, it is true that these books are also exclusive to Guild Party Quest, but these aren't main attacking skills for classes, which is the main issue I would like to stress!
Kevin mentioned in the thread that it's likely that GPQ will come after CWKPQ, so it actually shouldn't be too far away. PQ's are certainly not too difficult to code, so I believe it will be released sooner than you expect: As for considering another method of obtaining skillbooks, I don't think it should be necessary due to what should hopefully be a minimal amount of time before we release GPQ, however we will keep it in mind and monitor our progress with CWKPQ just in case something problematic arises there which could delay things.
Is there any chance of making this alternate thing happen or just a dream wont come true? Although shadowers are weak, I still wish to participate in this game with more fun. Unable to max my main skill is really frustrating.
I think it should be made available from more sources even if GPQ came out now, pretty much almost any book has more than 1 source to find it (aside from the zak/ht ones, but these are common bosses). Getting books from GPQ is quite rare anyway since the bonus is really short so even if GPQ came now it will take a while for all shadowers to get books, and that's why there weren't many in the first place.
SoonTM, except this time it impedes on the core functions of a class??? I don't see what's so unfavorable about an alternative method for GPQ skill books??? Historically speaking, literally every single promised update for the new source has been delayed beyond a reasonable amount of time. Which is honestly totally understandable, and totally tolerable considering that everyone continues to play this game. Coding is hard as tits, and as someone who barely scraped by Comp Sci 101 I'll be the first to admit that. But why put yourselves (more specifically, the developers) under another layer of pressure of another time-intensive deadline when you can just as easily alleviate the issue by temporarily providing players with what they literally cannot obtain due to no fault of their own? At this point I'm more surprised that it took so long for a feedback thread of this sort to be made, and that people have went for so long in the new source without these core skills.
True words been speaken. I believe leaving that books at Krexel, which is not an easy boss like papulatus (that been used to example), to drop those books temporarily, with a low drop rate, wouldn't mess up with the game even a little. And as soon as they get to fix GPQ, remove those books from Krexel as that won't be necessary anymore. I wonder if such a simple change into drop logs would be so hard to apply. And not only that, but also would give a breath to the dev team to work on GPQ with less stress.
Whut .. Haha Anyway on the topic, I would have thought GPQ would be more of a priority than CWKPQ. Yes, as a high level player, I'd love to see CWKPQ in action but GPQ is more essential for classes to achieve their full potential. Assassinate 30 for example is the main 4th job skill of Shadowers. I've never played a Shadower before but I'd assume, just like every other class, they would want their core skill maxed as well. CWKPQ is a pq where each class is required to participate in order to start and complete the pq. I can imagine many, if not all, high level Shadowers would want to participate in the pq however they're left to attend the pq without reaching their full abilities. I couldn't believe how CWKPQ was voted much more than GPQ, but can only imagine those were people who were just eager to have CWKPQ or couldn't sympathise themselves with those classes, or even didn't care about them. But I'd prefer having CWKPQ in a fair-to-each-class environment rather than how it would be if it gets released anytime soon. I'm not sure how updated or functional MapleRoyals Library is, but some of the GPQ books are listed as dropped by some mobs. (for example Paralyze and Chain Lightning from Leviathan) but it's still missing a few more. I can understand how difficult it must be for Karven to make a judgement based on that poll. If he, for example, had made GPQ a priority, that would piss-off people who had voted against it and immediately rant about how the server Administration created a poll but completely disregarded the results. So I totally understand the reason, since CWKPQ was voted ahead of GPQ, some classes would have to attend the pq without being able to max some skills. So I agree, make those books droppable/obtainable by other means, at least until the GPQ release. Krexel is a very good suggestion in my opinion as it is hunted down very frequently so the book prices won't be much at all which was the case for the GPQ book prices. Or a mob in ToT would be good too I reckon. @godys That is a good point as well. Once CWKPQ is released, with no available option to obtain GPQ books, I can see many people, especially Shadower mains, become impatient with the implementation of GPQ. This suggestion would relieve the developers from that as well and can take their time with GPQ.
Found one at fm. I think its too cheap for books which are out of print. Does make sense being as much as MW20 are. Too bad that I can't afford that.
They would have been obtained before 2017 when Guild PQ was still available. People would of just had the books floating around on a mule somewhere (probably forgot they even had it).
@Matt, It has now been 1 month since the creation of this thread, and a whopping 1 year and 4 months since Assassinate 30 was last obtainable in-game. From what I have gathered, the following updates are coming up during the next few patches: Login server improvements (character deletion, PIN codes, etc) Crimsonwood Keep Party Quest Easter Event Spoiler I don't know where you stand in terms of progress with these updates, but judging by the recent comment made by Andreas on the 29th March, there is still a lot focus on getting everything ready: Spoiler To add to that, apparently Easter event is coming too? Which means a lot of time and effort will be going towards vigorously testing everything to make sure the event runs as smoothly as possible. Unless these above updates are literally around the corner, I think you underestimate the time frame for when the above updates (mainly points 1 and 2) will be released. I mean look at the amount of delays that Horntail faced last year. I can't imagine CWKPQ being an easy task at all, especially with additional considerations such as making sure that the Mark of Naricain pendant doesn't completely overshadow the Horntail Pendant and what not. Anyways, my main point is that MapleRoyals is pretty notorious for having delays for big updates (Soon™), and I still don't see GPQ coming back anytime soon due to what is currently being worked on. I would like to reiterate that I am not against the upcoming changes, and I completely understand that a lot of work goes into coding and testing these updates. However, Shadowers being the only class left that still cannot max one of its main 4th job skills this late into New Source is beyond ridiculous. So please, make Assassinate 30 available through one the suggested alternative methods discussed above. Thank you.
Give the Shadowers Assassinate 30 already before those China RWTer send another assassination threat to you.
We still have no intention of having an alternative way for obtaining these books, and there haven't been any issues for the next two updates that have made us rethink this. It's not possible to compare the delays with Horntail to any of this, Horntail was simply delayed due to the backend cheat detection not being mature enough and Horntail being the biggest flaw at the time was the biggest reason to wait. Mark of Naricain is already balanced to the release state, so that will not be a problem, it's simply the implementation of the PQ that needs handling. You must also take into account that more than one thing are being worked on at once, taking the current situation as an example, we currently have the login update, CWKPQ, and the next event all being worked on. We are not underestimating the time to release these updates, a great deal of progress has been made in all three, and two of them are being released in the next update. I can't give you an ETA, but from my viewpoint this isn't such a doom and gloom situation, if it makes it a little bit better, I will give an update on our current status sometime next week unless we do a real announcement.
People simply neglects minority classes without seeing their full potential or have little knowledge about it. I do agree with putting GPQ books (as it is frustrating for shadowers to not have their core skills maxed; For example, how would you feel if your NL did not have TT30?) onto other bosses or monsters in the meantime of coding GPQ. However, I do understand coding takes time and many trails and error. In addition, I do agree with @itsKate @iEatEmoKids "If he , for example, had made GPQ a priority, that would piss-off people who had voted against it and immediately rant about how the server Administration created a poll but completely disregarded the results." "But why put yourselves (more specifically, the developers) under another layer of pressure of another time-intensive deadline when you can just as easily alleviate the issue by temporarily providing players with what they literally cannot obtain due to no fault of their own?" Overall, I appreciate how much it has been done so far on MapleRoyals despite the delays of updates and understand how the staff have to work under the pressure of the royals community.
