Info Progress Update 11th April

This update is only about helping unwashed classes both range and melee to have sufficient amount of hp to participate in endgame bosses (even with hb in most cases, range to be able to attack legs safely, and warriors can be effective sed). It was never intended to promote/encourage hp washing/ make it easier and cheaper in any way so all warriors can have 30k hp and all range attkers 20k+ hp. Food for thought, think about it

 

I vote for :

• Adding maxHP to Mu Lung Dojo Belts (Will be made available with the release of Mu Lung Dojo).

 

I have a lot of questions regarding this update but I might as well wait and see what will happen when things start getting implemented in the game to get a clear picture. I do like most of the changes, a few has me in split opinions myself but we will have to wait and see.

 

One can argue in the same way that melee warrior's dps must be buffed as well since it's unfair how ranged attackers always white melee in a boss raid. Ranged attackers have advantage over melee with higher 1 vs 1 DPS. People play ranged classes so they can shine with their glorious damage beyond what melee can produce. Who says they need 30k HP to boss? I know many friends who only HP wash to the minimum threshold HP : for e.g 9.8k at 155lvl as MM to survive in HT. They still enjoy going HT without HB and it didn't cost them them much more than the amount a hero spent to hp wash to 30k at 155.

Warriors have a different role in bosses. They often need to tank the bosses and receive much higher dmg than the ranged classes. For e.g in zakum, Drks and heroes stand either on zak or 1mm next to zak's body, getting rid of flying mobs for the sake of ranged classes who stand safe and sound, far away from the actual body. Ofc melees need more hp than ranged unless nightlords suddenly decide to yield spears and start smacking zakum upclose.

Warriors are picked to be seduce targets in Horntail where they receive bunch of attacks while they are forced to jump around like a frog. Isn't it obvious they naturally need more HP?

HP washing to 30k hp on ranged classes is just a showoff by the stinking rich minority in the population.

 

Some of you are seriously reaching too hard wdf. Don't forget the main reason for the small increase in HP is not to make your life as easy as you think it should be but just a minor boost. The update hasn't even been implemented so let's not start this now.

Remember, the small boost in HP is to set you up to be further helped by your team not to be saved from all the issues associated with HP. This is just to even things out not to make it lopsided.

 

It's actually called Power Crash, and it's very useful. Now, even Zakum is casting Weapon Def Up, which I didn't notice before.

1. Why would I get mad when I have nothing to fear? The double damage comes from our will to survive.
2. Might be too game-changing, in my opinion.
3. The least bad suggestion, but personally (as a DK) I feel that it should remain at 50%

And like Dan said here

Anego is scary but possible to berserk if you remove background music. Bodyguard A too, if you have a bunch of NLs pinning it to the wall (it won't attack you much)

Some are arguing that HP washing is free too. Mesos = Time, they say. Following this logic, doing quests and stuff to get HP would be more expensive than regular washing

Gosh, I think I made a too long reply again. All I actually wanted to say say is that this seems like a really nice update and I appreciate that you share the progress with the community!

 

Archers aren't even strong though lol, they barely win against warriors in 1vs1 and will lose in multi target bosses like Zakum or HT.
You just need to nerf NLs, this class is too strong and I'm tired of seeing R>NL everywhere.

 

Thank you for finally implementing something that helps to reduce the whole HP washing issue. This is certainly a good direction towards a healthier gameplay in the long run.





Here's to hope that Albert will start selling AP Resets soon.

 

The way you're handling the HP balancing is very interesting and I'm looking forward to that. I hope you aren't considering taking away HP washing from an already established world though. Maybe if Royals ever gets a second world, HP washing could be disabled, but definitely not this one.

Have you considered how MoN might affect the lategame item builds and such? A 10 weapon attack MoN will always beat a HTP, but a HTP is a higher level item than MoN. In my opinion, MoN should be made a lower level item (80-90?) and have its weapon attack nerfed (3-5), but I'm sure a lot of people disagree. I just think it makes more sense having HTP being the better lategame item as it is higher level than MoN.

Overall, I think you're definitely on the right track fixing the game with these improvements. Keep it up and thanks for listening to the community!

 

I picked a good time to check the royal forums for the first time in a few months & loving the increase HP balance changes

Now big question on a slightly off topic minor thing: Is there any plans on removing/reversing the 3rd job advancement requirement for the Monster Rider Quest so perma beginners can obtain a mount like they use to before new source?

 

Agree as well. Although I'm not in the right position to propose this becoz of my scarf but potential 10 att MoN is too OP I doubt any attackers (including classes that need secondary stat) will go for HTP anymore. Horntail is supposed to be the endgame Big Boss and HTP was one of the main reasons for attempting HT. If this merit is taken away, I dunno... HT won't feel like the final end game boss anymore.

 

I can completely agree with this. Crits, DPS, speed/map maneuverability is too much for one class to be completely OP in.

 

EZ Mode engage
might as well revert boat rides back to no fast travel ticket to skip

where are all the people arguing R.I.P. my nostalgia posts and threads?!

 

Just wondering, if you do decide to implement the potion idea, if you already have 30k HP and you consume a potion, would it temporarily increase hp beyond 30k? XD

 

MoN is already confirmed by Matt to have 5 att average, but it can be godly.

 

HT drops Gen 30/ mw 20 and like 10-20k NX. Its not just only HTP tho

 

The implement of HP looks a good idea, however i believed you can make a good implement if you add AP resets sold at FM npc. This not only can help to make a bether character but also can help to the economy.

 

Late to the party, but I really happy to know that our voices are reaching the staffs.

Washing isn't hard at all. Just boring and it kills pre-lv 134 communities directly or indirectly (I can make a case for both cases).

DrK has become one of the minority classes a long long long time ago.

The use of HB in bossing has already being viewed as a luxury not a necessity a long long long time ago.

DrK was designed as a situational warrior class with highest raw damage in warrior class while hero was deaigned as an all rounder. A good DrK can out dmg Hero with same funding with good HP management, while hero is good but not the best at everything.

Your suggestion of making drk to zerk easier will destroy that "balance" and directly/indirectly making hero further obsolete.

Most of the bosses' touch damage is way higher than magic/fullmap/ranged damage. Ranged class fight in range, melee class fight in...melee range.

Enough said.

If less people fight HT, expect HT book prices to increase since the supply decrease. That along is worth fighting.

 

I simply mentioned that the costs to wash a Warrior are too much of a difference, EVEN despite the fact attacker classes have "Higher DPS" than DRK knights do. The fact can be argued however, as the dmg gap isn't much of a difference anyway. Further, you mention that it is MANDATORY for all warriors to have 30k hp, otherwise they would die because simply touch dmg is too op! All I was trying to suggest was a second look at how much more time, and how much more harder it is to create a washed BM. If you had done simple calculations, you would come to a realization that you would only need to have a base hp of a little less than 14800 after the update. ( this is assuming you were to add 4k hp from quests and such to get the desired 30k hp after HB. That's only 21 ap resets.. 21 ap resets, compared to a range of 500-1300 ap resets needed for regular attacker classes to gain the hp sufficient enough to horntail.


I bet you any newcomer to the server wanting to play a BM for nostalgic purposes would just quit or hop on to another server without a moments hesitation the second they find out about this hp washing nonsense. I'm not saying that hp washing is impossible, I'm just saying that hp washing requires an incredible amount of time and investment, and creates situations where you have to grind out a mage character before you are even able to enjoy the game. Clearly, this could have some contribution to the overall declining population of mapleroyals, No? All I was simply pointing out was the drastic difference in ap resets required for the two, and maybe a further look into a few fixes that won't punish you for simply choosing the "wrong class." Now because you seem to know everything about this game, I won't argue with you further.

 

I only replied and answered on why ranged class should receive less "free" HP than melee class. I was setting the HP washing topic aside for another topic at another time.

I'm in agreement with you regarding the whole hp washing cultures. You can read up my view or opinion reguarding MapleRoyals HP washing culture in this thread (be sure to read all the juicy discussion in the thread).

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/an-idea-to-make-hp-mp-washing-optional.118743/