Open Dann's long hours general leech

Discussion in 'Selling' started by Dann, Jan 30, 2018.

  1. MushroomYoYo
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    That's why I don't go to the left side of the map.
    I don't do any action which might slow down my leech.
     
  2. PhotonSphere
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    For anyone reading this, it is important to note these are the expectation of a LV175 buyer, and should not be set as the standard for LV105-120 buyers.

    TL, DR: Two LV175 split buyers would both get 20% more exp than two LV110 split buyers, even if the seller is equally efficient in both cases.

    For a 1-seller 2-buyer party, the formula of the EXP that one buyer gets per mob kill is:

    monster_exp * (buyer_level / party_total_level) * 0.8 * (1.5 if HS, otherwise 1.0) * 1.17

    Note that seller and buyer levels only affect the (buyer_level / party_total_level) factor.

    Assume seller's level is 180.

    For two LV110 buyers, the factor's value is 110 / (110 + 110 + 180) = 0.275

    For two LV175 buyers, the factor's value is 175 / (175 + 175 + 180) = 0.33

    The LV175 buyers get (0.33 - 0.275) / 0.275 = 20% more exp than LV110 buyers. This has nothing to do with seller's efficiency. Also, this bonus doesn't come from sucking exp from the partner, since both buyers have the same level. It simply comes from the virtue of being a high-leveled character.

    With this fact in mind, the expectation for a LV105-120 buyer should be closer to:
    • 25M EXP per hour for general skeles split leech.
    • 26M - 29M EXP per hour for general petri leech.
    • 32M - 35M EXP per hour for telecasting petri leech.
    These numbers are more consistent with my observations for LV105-120 buyers. It would not be good if low-leveled buyers come to Dann expecting 40-47M exp per hour XD


    On the other hand, the formula mentioned above also shows that having a LV175 partner doesn't do as much harm as we think to a LV115 buyer. It certainly was a contributing factor to the low exp that LV115 received, but it was not the primary cause.

    TL, DR: If that LV115 buyer had a LV115 partner instead of a LV175 partner, he would have received 14.28% more EXP. This boosts his EXP gain per hour from 21M to 24M, which is still far below the telecasting petri standard.

    For a 1-seller 2-buyer party, the formula of the EXP that one buyer gets per mob kill is:

    monster_exp * (buyer_level / party_total_level) * 0.8 * (1.5 if HS, otherwise 1.0) * 1.17

    Note that seller and buyer levels only affect the (buyer_level / party_total_level) factor.

    Assume the seller's level is 180.

    For a LV115 buyer with LV175 partner, the factor's value is 115 / (115 + 175 + 180) = 0.245

    For a LV115 buyer with LV115 partner, the factor's value is 115/ (115+ 115+ 180) = 0.280

    If the LV115 had a LV115 partner instead of a LV175 partner (which would no longer put him at a disadvantage), he would get (0.280 - 0.245) / 0.245 = 14.28% more EXP.

    This is definitely a much smaller percentage difference than @87Karlos 's example. In fact, if you play with the (buyer_level / party_total_level) factor, you will see that seller and partner levels have huge influences when buyer level is low, but much smaller influences when buyer level is high. This is exactly why people care so much about seller's level in low-level Bishop leech, but don't care as much for high-level leech.

    In short, the expectations given by @MushroomYoYo are unrealistic if applied to low-level buyers. However, the EXP gains in those 3 hour were abnormally low, even after correcting buyers' level difference.

    This is probably a lot of shit, especially when it seems to be none of my business. However, I believe any petri seller's actions may affect all other petri sellers, since the buyers can talk with their friends about their experiences. I admire @Dann 's stamina and determination to leech for such long hours. And given the previous great reviews, I would assume those 3 hours was a one-time thing. Hope you can continue giving great service to the community, and hope you don't mind me being blunt in my previous posts XD
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2018
  3. MushroomYoYo
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    I used to record my exp before/after buying leech from new leechers.
    Thank you to point them out: they are merely my expectation from any leech.
     
  4. Dann
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    Going for 4-6 hours today (a 30 min breik since eating) in like 1-2 horus from now. Fell free to pm or post here if you're interesting.
     
  5. Dann
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    Who's ready for long hours all the next week? Fell free to post here / pm at forums
     
  6. Dann
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    Dann Donator

    Update a new presentation. Unfortunally the design most wait.
     
  7. Lowly
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    Bought 3 hours. Got 3 hours. Good guy. no complaints at all. Even had MW20 which was a plus because im hp washing.
     
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  8. Dann
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    And we go for another 3 hours today ;)
     
  9. Lowly
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    Yeah, buying another 3 hours right now. Works well with my work schedule. Dependable leecher that can work with my AFK schedule hahahaha
     
  10. Dann
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    Done with 3 hours! Will be at game in 2 hours of some need more.
     
  11. Dann
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    Just finish a 7 hours with my dude @-Tommy- Thanks alot to purshed!
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  12. Dann
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    Update the day (S) i can leech.

    Thanks alot all of you who purshed and if you guys need more just hit me up : D
     
  13. Dann
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    Updated 3:
     
  14. Dann
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  15. Dann
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    LF>Funded daddy
     
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  16. Dann
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    Aww
     
  17. PayPal
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    Real good service, definitely recommend him, I'm on a 3 hours leech and still going strong.

    +1 vouch
     
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  18. Robin Jacobs
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    Very good service, fair price / fair rules.
    Remember his name!!!
     
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  19. Dann
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    Tomorrow will be continue woth long hours again -- Thansks alot for everyone who purshed via PM
     
  20. Dann
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    Done another 4 hours -- will be back in 2 hours
     

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