Bucc

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What to do with my bucc

  1. Make it a mule and make NL or something instead

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  2. Wash/reset int and give it another chance

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  1. Ayane
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    So I made a bucc character and it's level 136 now, the character still didn't really finish washing and it got 100 base int (and also lvl 30 barrage and 15 dragon strike) however it's range isn't really bad (around 5300 with MW20) cause it got 110 atk knuckle and all my atk gear.
    Bucc seems pretty fun so far with cool skills but the thing is that this character feels extremely weak. While grinding the damage isn't bad (due to stun mastery+se) but while bossing stun mastery doesn't work and the damage is really bad.

    I tried to kill bf with it and it takes ages to damage him, in zak I couldn't white any single arm (despite hitting some arms for much longer time than other people) and in krex it was so weak I had to give up and make my BM kill him instead so the run won't be too long.
    Also from what I hear so far buccs aren't going to get buffed in the next patch so I'm not sure if it will ever be strong.

    So I have 2 options now, either to try continue this character and see if it gets any decent at higher levels (with int reset, all the skills maxed etc) or to avoid spending any more resets on it, sell the knuckle/overall and make it a TL/SI mule.
    If I quit I could make another character like Drk or NL (NL could work pretty well cause I got SE already) although washing a NL seems a bit troublesome.

    What to do with my bucc?
     
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    Make a comparison between Bowmaster and Buccaneer :
    Bowmasters have Sharp Eyes, benefits every other jobs, have good damage output to solo bosses.

    Buccaneers have Time Leap, Speed Infusion, don't benefit some of other jobs (Bowmasters, Night Lords, and magicians), not be wanted as much as Bowmasters, have weaker damage output.

    Conclusion : Buff Buccaneers.
     
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    A good bucc is one of the greatest attacker/sed/si/echo/tl utility party member you'll ever know, throw in a hero, and both will white other jobs for days. I say give it a chance to shine. just wanna add u might not do alot of dmg but ppl love u especially warriors, will take si over se anyday.
     
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    As far for i know the true potential att froma buccaner its from lvl 155+ since you will have demolition maxed already and super transformation (Not really worth since its just combinaded with demolition).
    ALSO the minium damage from a buccaner its kinda weak considering they hit like 10k damage with barrage 30..
    I test my dmg on a private server and i just check i hit 30k with barrage 30 and demolition 30 at lvl 160 with like 8 or 9k range.
    I dont know how the range and attack work from a bucc, since i never try it before here at royals, but i believed @Lexy or @Dre can help you with this.
     
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    Sophie sophie sophie...

    You have to be reminded that Buccaneers are more of a support class and not a dps class. In order to feel the full potential of the class, you have to wash away your int and max your core skills. Also, this game is not all about whiting, if you want to white exp, dont make a buccaneer. The most important aspect I value in a boss run is efficiency (the formation of the party rather than damage wise) in a boss run. This means that if you have a buccaneer in party, you can try to find some melee/corsair or mm in the party to benefit your SI. In addition, TL is extremely useful in boss runs because it can reset the cooldowns of resurrection, echo and other skills.

    Examples of how TL is useful in HT

    1. Say if bishop gets mass seduced and dispel at the same time, they would need to heros will. After heros will is used, you can TL the heros will in case of any other emergency.
    2. If the Sed dies, bishop can res and you can use TL right after so res is up agian in case of any other deaths.
    3. Infinite Echo

    Overall, TL gives more room for the party to make silly mistakes or ensure the party can run smoothly.
     
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    I believe in you Sophie! I believe in KittenPaw's potential!

    Believe in me who believes in you!
     
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    My buccaneer is level 180 and useless. Even though i dont have the time to play anymore but when i do, i always make a new class to main
     
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    Useless, please explain in what ways?
     
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    Reason to quit:
    _ Unpopular.
    _ Low dps.
    _ Hard to find bossing party then most dps jobs.

    Reason to play
    _Unpopular.
    _There are people who play perma beginner and islander so why not?
    _ Punch and kicks are cool
    _ Easier to find boss party than paladin, archmages, perma beginner, and maybe on pair with DK in this term.
    _ You proud of your high level as NL proud of their attack, feel more meaning in leveling. People respect you for being unpopular job with high level.
     
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    Hey Jackson don’t say that, I playing now :p
     
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    I’m a 161 bucc with around 5.5k range. My barrage is hitting 9-10k for first 4 lines followed by about 20k 40k (highest I’ve seen since the damage differs so much).
    Also what above mentioned is true, I personally enjoy the skills of buccs and people have been telling me it’s damage is lower and slower. But I Guess that depends on your reason for playing? I’m here to have fun with my character, not solo/white bosses. With that, I also wouldn’t mind more buffs to buccs :))
     
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    Endure people belittling you and you will be great one day :D

    Also, I don't think bucc is that low of a damage as people say it is. Alot of it is misconception due to the lack of knowledge of the class. If you know what a Bucc can do in a party, it is actually useful.
     
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    I decided to quit unless it gets a buff, the class is way too weak right now and I lost motivation to level it
     
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    Didn't the trailer show the useless stun passive got reworked to crit? The skelegons weren't stunned.
     
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    Nah from the way Matt spoke in the shoutbox it seems like bucc isn't going to get buffed at all and will stay with trash damage
     
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    Sophie, your statement is offensive and disrespectful to buccaneers. Your statement is invalid because your buccaneer is only at level151 and haven't even max out your core skills (you don't know the full potential). I have told you many times in game and also on forum that buccaneer is not meant for heavy damage dealing but rather it is a utility class.
     
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    To be fair there is a bit of a damage gap, especially when noting that paladins get elemental bonus on some bosses. Sairs weren't included because of difficulties in calc (mostly boat). I guess it mostly depends on how valuable one considers time leap, though without a lvl 200 in party for echo its usage is generally limited to res.

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    Note: a friend made this chart not me, so for specific questions may need to ask him.
     
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    Yes you should just quit Bucc, you are purely looking for high damage only and nothing else. Just rmb to beg/cry/whine/scream for SE with your new NL
    I don't much get the point of your thread since you answered most of your questions by yourself, you already know the cons of bucc and planned to switch to NL
    This thread seems more like complaining about bucc instead of enjoying the bucc class on it's own.

    Don't mind her, her intentions from the start was already wrong. even if bucc is buffed, she's prolly gonna say it's still not as strong and etc ...
    You can see her chat in shoutbox then again complaining about NL needing to wash and not fun and etc ..
     
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    How did your friend do the calculations for the chart? I am curious. Timeleap can be used on any skills that have cool down such as smokescreen, heros will and so on
     
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