Notice Gachapon, Gullivera Coins, Bosses

I agree that something had to be done about the massive amounts of PACs/bwgs/etc, I hope that this works out well.

Two questions - are Gullivera coins tradeable [to other players/within account] or completely untradeable?

And, why are AP resets purchasable for Gullivera coins? Is it not enough to already be able to get them through 1) CS for 3.1k NX each, 2) NPC for 20m each and 3) buy from other players?

 

Plus drops

 

I dunno how I feel about WS and chaos scrolls being added to this. Yeah the rate was probably too high, but I felt like it was probably lowered this week anyway, as it went from me being able to get one every other day or every couple of days last week to 1 the entire week this week. Maybe I was just unlucky in recent days.

In any case, they were the only thing worth a chunk of money from Gach...and hence the only way to get a leg-up. Getting one should be like winning the lottery. Very rare, but the reward is great. Now there's really nothing we can get from gach that has a great reward attached to it, cause everything else is worth less than 20m.

Currently anything considered "godly" is over 500m and usually close to a bil to buy...so we're looking at weeks to even obtain 1 item unless you get really lucky and scroll one yourself.

I dunno. Maybe it'll be good in the long run. Guess we'll see.

I would have personally rather seen you A) lower the chance of getting these items from gach and B) implement a lowered drop rate for gach tickets and make it so that people can only obtain special items like gach/nx/smegas from mobs the same level as you or higher and obviously once you hit the level of the highest mobs (say mobs in leafre dungeon and grims/gigs/pianus/pap/zak) and those are the only ones you can "farm" those special items from. I know it's possible...I've seen it done. This would prevent high level people from farming low/mid level mobs for these special items.

It would also be really awesome to make it so you only get 1 chance per attack to obtain these special items...rather than how it is right now where if you can use AOE skills to hit/kill 15 mobs at the same time, you get 15 chances per attack to obtain a special item...which leaves the rest of us who can only hit/kill up to 6 mobs at once on an unfair playing field.

 

i think you just should decrease percentage to get bwg/ws/chaos etc.. from gachapon and problem solved....


PS.

Just checked Free Market, all Pacs,Bwgs,WS,Chaos and etc.. are sold out.... so rich peoples buyed all items and now they will put them in their own shops and be even richer.....

so this is so bad..


Rich just get even richer....

 

The coin rates seem perfectly balanced. What's the fun in getting everything at once?

 

Very nice though it could have come about 2 weeks earlier, gonna take a while for the market to stabilize. Go and NPC ur PAC/PGC people =p

 

Maybe consider removing Dragon Khanjar, Stonetooth sword & Sky Ski?

Also I still think you should add custom items (IE. 1att 5slot mask) with a very low rate, ~1/1000, to make Gachapon more interesting & provide a substitute for SMC event.

edit: Either that or add more items to the Vending machine

 

History repeats it self, way to screw over all mages that can't boss. Also gg negating the need of NX/gacha tickets. Wasn't it enough that you made every other ticket a elixir/cheese/def scroll??

Changing the game rules out of nowhere is bad.

WS went from 120m -> 1,2b. This means I can forget about finishing my overall and also I can forget about making a NL since I won't be able to scroll equips/weapon for it.

I said it before, I'm soon 18x on my Bishop and I don't have a single perfect equip on it, far from. Now there isn't even any point in trying.

If you didn't want people to have lots of mesos you should have 1) not made the server 5x drop and 2) not give away free NX.

/Saki

 

Iiiiiiiinteresting changes! Looking forward to seeing how this goes!

 

Ummm, Saki we can get the coins from gacha, and will be able to get the coins from pqs.

 

You make it sound like having a perfect weapon should be something everyone that played for a month should have... It should be rare to have in v62 especially.

 

You make it sound like we are playing on a 1/1/1 server where you pay for you NX.

I don't think it's fair to make so drastic changes to the game rules (word 'rules' is not meant to be taken literally). Either it is 100% like Wizet Nexon v62 or it's not. Don't act like it is, was, or will ever be.

Maybe you can afford to pay 1.2b per WS but I don't and maybe you can go kill lots of bosses but I can't. The game should cater to all classes and players not just a few.

Edit: It comes to a point where I wonder if we are supposed to have fun or just have a hard time.

 

It's not whether this server is 100% or 0% like the original. It's however we want to make it, as customized or as uniformly like the Nexon version.

Also, you are supposed to have fun, not rage when it's now much harder to have the perfect character with the perfect equips.

The continuing trend I am seeing is people are not only racing to be #1 on the server, but also have the best possible equips. Congratulations, you can now solo HT or Zak or whatever. Now what? Now there's no more fun because you've done everything. You've maxed out your character, maxed out your skills, maxed your mesos, etc.

The game always needs to be changing. New things need to be added, old things need to be removed, etc. If we didn't touch this server for a month and just let it stay as it is, you guys would be going ballistic that the staff isn't doing anything, the game isn't fun, etc.

Why don't you join the FM and chat with new and old players? Or for the higher level people who have done their 2 Zak runs of the day, use your high level skills to leech a new player from level 1 to level 100 in a day. There's SO much that you can be doing instead of being upset that the game has been made harder.

Complaints have been pouring in that the server was too easy, now we're trying to make it a bit more challenging, that's all.

 

He's got a point you know~
But, I do prefer higher the times doing Zakum runs each 24 hours to at least 3 times.

 

Who said anything about the game being harder now? You think having a hard time means the game is hard?? Having a hard time means it's not fun. It means not having the possibility to try out new things and experiment. It means you are thinking about logging in or not because Skeles are the only place you can grind.

I see so many high lvl players leech every day and ask for leech I can't take anyone serious that tells me the game is easy.

PG (yes I kept my cool here): And who are you to decide when someone should and should not rage or have fun and not have fun?

What is happening now is we were offered a carrot and halfway through it turned to a potato.

 

What carrot are you talking about? You mean the carrot that is the server which Matt generously pays for and many people pay on for free without giving anything back?

Let me tell you, it feels pretty rotten when we do a lot of work (read: hours a day) to try and make things even, fair, and fun for everyone and we are met with people raging that we've done this wrong, we've ruined the game, we're making it a hard time, whatever. There is NOTHING wrong with constructive criticism, but frankly, the raging and the unwillingness to try something before casting judgement is getting really old (and I've been here a much shorter time than many of the other staff).

 

I think everyone should just wait and see how this goes. This new coin system has only been added for 12 hours now and there's already so much discussion about it.
Why don't you just take a few days to see how (easy/difficult) it is to get coins and how the market changes. I think that the sudden change might look worse than it actually is. And I for one like this new system of getting coins, it's more enjoyable than just having luck from gachapon in my opinion.

 

Just for the record John, the forum isn't for paying customers only, and this thread has nothing to do with money so plz don't mention money again in a thread like this, ok? (If you think this is rude, sure go ban me)

About the carrot, I could have written steak --> broccoli.

There are lots of reasons why people haven't donated yet and Matt wants this to be a free to play server so don't throw dirt on people that hasn't donated yet.

The giving back isn't only about donating, it is also about playing the game, word of mouth, voting, contributing in the forums etc. And yes people who can should show their appreciation if they like the game donating for the costs, but not everyone can and neither should it be expected from them.

'Constructive criticism' doesn't mean yes/no, good/bad.

You should be happy that people care that much to take the time to open up and write their inner thoughts, regardless if it's positive or negative.

But sure, I'll stfu now and be happy.

 

Not really. Read the Terms and Conditions. Matt, or the Provider - in lieu of Nexon - is entitled to make any change the Provider deems fit. You have accepted this as you continue to use the game and forum. Nowhere and never has he stated that changes will not be made to counter a flawed economy or game.

I like that these items, PAC, BWG, PGC, WS, Chaos, etc, have been removed from gachapon because they were just worthless right now; which they shouldn't be. I had more than 7 bwg's and more than 15 PACs/PGCs, despite selling a few bwg's and NPCing all my 1 attack PACs/PGCs. Not to mention the deflation of WS/Chaos...

However, I feel that 10m per coin is way too much, but a bird whispered in my ear that this is to be changed to 5m. And that seems perfect.


All in all, a great change that seems to be helping/saving the economy greatly - but please, make the coins a bit cheaper.