I am hunting lucida boss these days. The rule with mapowner is to ~mapowner and ~servertime and ask the kser to leave. But this rule does not help me. Today, I went to lucida map to hunt for boss. Normally, you kill lucida mobs to spawn lucida boss. Today, I went to kill lucida mobs to spawn lucida boss and when I found lucida boss on the other side of map, some guy come into map and 1 hit it with genesis. The map is mine but he doesn't care and just cc. This happened in two channels. It is unfair. Frustrating. I whispered him that he ksed me two times and he ignored me. He was very fast. 5-10 secs in map and he cc. Can you give me effective mapowner rule to help me against fast ksers who disappear fast? The mapowner rule is weak here: (1) it need some time & conversation (2) only works when ksers stay in map long enough. (Sorry for bad english. I ask my friend to help write better english)
I can agree with you. It's easy for people to both avoid the ~mapowner and abuse it. What you can do in a situation like this is take a screenshot of the KSer and post his name and the whole situation in the blacklist thread. It will not necessarily get him banned but will put a heavy cloud of impopularity over him which hopefully can change his behavior in the long run.
Thank you. This idea is interesting. But no one reads blacklist thread here. And some people do not care. Have automated manpower for bossing maps When you enter maps like lucida map or blue mushmom map, a mapowner will appear: 'This map is owned by mapleroyalplayer1111 for 3 minutes'. It appear automattically. So you will see it. Without typing ~mapowner. And then if the player still ks, it is easy to say that he purposely ksed because he saw the manpower but still ksed. This can fight fast ksers who leave in a few seconds. (thank you to my friend who edited my post to write better english in discord)
You can input "~mapowner" on maple macro to make it faster *Go to skill tab, bottom right of the skill tab, click the button that is called "Macro". Once the tab is opened, select a skill and put it on one of the row. After, type "~mapowner" on the "create my own skill name". To use it, you need to drag the macro picture (whichever you picked) to one of the hotkey to use it. Hopes this help...
blacklist thread is a joke and pointless. just fyi. also, either record every time you play or get ready for fast ss to catch him on the act, those nx farmers is hard to get when they ks, but not impasoble.. save the name and report him anyway its the gm job to get to the bottum of this. just provide un edited SS or video.
How I read it, the rules are such so people with bad intent, can't hurt regular players by abusing the rule itself. It makes it harder to use, yes, but I'd rather see people get away than fair players get squeezed by it. My opinion at least. Speaking as a player, please don't throw the black list under the bus, you just don't like it because you're on it...
i know, yet i sell leech, sell or buy items, and play normaly.. ZERO effect (even tho its mostly just a way to feel better about yourself when you make mistake but i wont get into that right now.) either way fact is its worthless waste of time and the only way to get the ks guy is record yourself playing. or when you hunt in boss map SS everytime someone at the CH with u (after you ~mapowner for better evidence).
Thank you but it dont stop fast ksers. how can i say? manpower rule is useless and ks format requirement can't be finished. ksers disappear after 5 seconds. it can't stop ksers. if you do video and ss you say ~mapowerand "cc plz" but they arleady killed boss and cc before you say "mapower" or "cc plz". how can i stop and report?
The black list isn't designed to cripple you. It's not designed to constantly mess with you. It's there because people felt wronged by things that aren't against the ToS. It's there, for people who want to seek it out, and read it. It's not meant to be shoved down peoples throat, it's just, there. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean other players aren't using it. I check it daily, and I see people looking it at every time I'm viewing it. Note some people hide their presence on the forum. For example, there's more than double the people viewing this thread right now than it shows. I agree, it's not 100%, and it's not perfect. But given on GMS there was no rules about KS'ing it's at least a small step up. The only thing that kept your map was either people being nice enough to not try and take it, and your ability to keep the EXP rates up, so the people KSing you find it fruitless. This thread is a good step forward though, if you guys have suggestions (like you posted), post them.
again this why i record myself, when a guy jump into your channel see that the player hunt there and yet still steal boss and leave thats against the TOT and he should at least get 3days ban from that. a normal guy do ~mapowner before start attacking or looting in the map. (at least i do and all the people i know.) those who don't just don't care or don't know. either way that doesn't change the fact that they broke a rule in TOT. @Evan "people felt wronged by things that aren't against the ToS". so basically millennials, democrats and socialists who got their feeling hurt (oh boy!) from other people who come on top (legally) and now they looking for people to blame for their own failures.. got it.. cool. (lets not get off topic tho..)
Thank you. but i couldnt agree with you. videos cant stop fast ksers there immediately. when you make report, they maybe stop fast ksers only after some days. if you meet kser who need time to kill boss, you can talk to him there and maybehe listen you and could leave. and after you can kill boss and have good fun. but fast ksers don't leave you anything. they kill boss and disappear fast. you get nothing. and you can't stop them so i think mapleroyals need a new way to stop fast ksing. I think one way sugestion is -> 3 or 4 second cd for 4th job mage skill. If map has someone inside. When a 4th job mage enter new map, he wait 3 or 4 seconds to attack with 4th job mage skill (he can use other skills fire arrow, magic claw, poison immeddiately). after, he can cast mage skill many times. so no less people will abuse skill to farm nx immediately and disappear
Lol you might think so but let me burst your bubble by telling you that a buddy of mine wanted to buy a concerto off your shop, but stopped immediately and didn't purchase it after seeing the store owner was you. Me and a few buddies actually boycott you, thanks to blacklist thread.
Like evan said already the current state of what's asked for as sufficient evidence to get a kser banned is there to save people from getting falsely banned for ksing. I can see how people can use this to basically ks you without you having time to get sufficient evidence. Making mages aoe have a cd would not help your case in any way, since most other classes kill just as fast or faster than mages and the way you want to nerf it would completely destroy mages. When this has been mentioned in the past iirc they have said that recording the kser would suffice as evidence, I'm not 100% sure on this though since theres been times on this server where a gm would mention something like this and it would not be something that was really supported by the staff hence if thats the case recording him ksing you wouldn't be enough to get him banned. However if it is a recurring issue with the same person you should be able to get sufficient evidence by whispering him that ksing is against the t&c and taking screen shots of him hitting the boss and showing map owner if there's enough to show that he's killing mobs/taking loots in your map and him taking part of the information about ksing being illegal.
I think you misunderstood the suggestion made by OP. Or you just exaggerated your expression. Having a few seconds of cool down on your skill after changing channel would certainly not completely destroy anyone. Perhaps just a nasty KSer. I don't believe it's required that anyone is aware of the rules before they get banned. I actually read appeals quite frequently and I see a lot of banned people claiming they were not aware of that what they were doing was wrong. And yet they remain banned. Personally I like the suggesting that ~mapowner is shown automatically upon entering a map. If I am a good person, I want to know this anyway and usually checks if it's free. Auto would spare me a click. If I'm bad, the automatic check will force my mind once more to consider if what I'm doing is actually morally good or not.
don't know if its joke or sarcasm (i honestly can't tell), just a fyi ive never in my entire life had concerto in my inventory or store, not in royals nor in any other server or GMS. so there's that. again, its off topic so lets not go there, atleast not in here. its true.. you can't stop them, but you can record them and let gm stop them.. also, the only way for fast ksers to stop, is if the mapowner is the only one who can deal damage to monsters and bosses in the map unless the map owner give his approval, somehow like party or trade invite or even command like ~KSguardON / ~KSguardOFF (only mapowner can use) tho not sure it's possible..
If that is what he meant then i for sure misunderstood his suggestion. But then that still wouldn't help if the kser is any other class than mage. I'm sure that you had to explain about ksing being illegal and that it might cause you to get banned at some point however that seems to not be a thing anymore since I just read the ksing report format thread and it says nothing about this. Having mapowner displayed everytime someone enters a map might be somewhat useful it will give the mapowner a little bit of extra time to do ~servertime and telling the person to leave i guess.
Maybe a command like ~ks that brings up Mapowner, Servertime, and explains to the person that KSing is against the rules, its short, easy to type. Limit it to once per minute so people cant spam it (or only usable in maps with killable mobs)
Capturing a full 2 minutes of players who snipe bosses that way is very difficult, so from now on just try to include as much evidence as you can in reports (yes, we need to see their IGN to verify it's them). Nobody has enough time to explain why the KSer needs to leave when they can easily 1hko lower-levelled area bosses. Understandable, and something you can be assured is taken into account when making decisions
I think this idea is pretty good too, but probably hard to implement. If I enter the map, not being the map owner nor my party leader/members being the map owner, then I can't use skills (or at least a selected few attack skills) Because why would I need to use attack skills anyway, on a map where I'm not allowed to attack according to the rules? Skills like Flash Jump, Teleport and maybe Recoil Shot should still be enabled so people just "traveling" through the map are not hindered. The only problem I see with this (except the fact that it might be tricky to implement) is that people can abuse the ~mapowner command, for example by holding multiple (or all) channels in a Bigfoot map. In those cases I would want to attack even if I was not map owner... but then again, due to the broken system I might be the one banned for that.
