So how is this fair?

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  1. RoyalCupcake
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    I got banned for not leaving someone's map aside from another ban for language.

    So, I sent a video of a guy ignoring my cc plz mapownership for a good while.
    Afterwards he said in char he was trying to take my map.

    The result?


    'He was prob afk so no ban for him.'


    How is this fair? Seriously....

    It's good to ban person for not leaving but it's ok for a guy to ignore someone cause he's 'prob afk'.

    That is NOT okay with me.
     
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    Don why do you ppl always have to reply ?

    That's what causes problems.
     
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    The differences appears to be "afking" and "refusing to leave".

    If I'm AFK in the map and you come in and take it, you can't get me banned because I won't leave, I'm AFK afterall.
    If I'm in your map (not AFK), and you ask me to leave and I don't (or refuse to), it's a different issue entirely.

    The exact difference though (and in your case, your report) you'd have to ask a GM or Admin. If I'm not mistaken your thread was reopened pending more staff input. I hope that helps.
     
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    Then back it up with evidence, and counter-report him. There's alot of "what ifs" here, so at times we can only give benefit of doubt.
    But if you become persistent in staying despite being told to leave, and to the extend of being informed of what KSing/harassing constitutes, then prepare to face the punishment. Assuming he's a hacker, it doesn't mean we won't ban you because you yourself broke the rule. Last time, I ever banned a guy for reporting a hacker, while he's a hacker himself. So the rule still applies to you, even if you suspect someone is hacking and insist on that being the reason why you didn't leave the map.
     
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    Was he a Chief Bandit?
    If what I've read lately is true, then the technique which a lot (or most?) of CBs use has been deemed illegal. Maybe that's why he was afraid to continue his business. It could be hacking too but I can't with my small brain grasp why someone would hack in a Bigfoot map. They are so often visited by so many.

    (off topic but I think CBs should be able to drop their mesos like they've always done. Wrong thread though, I know)
     
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    Have you heard about Meso Explosion? It's a skill that Chief Bandits have, and its damage depends on mesos and not your regular damage range. Therefore it's possible for a Lv80 CB to actually solo BF. (no other job can do this in a realistic time frame without hacking)
    About the technique, I suggest you search the forums for in-depth information about it, but in essence it's using your scroll wheel to drop mesos faster than clicking, thus increasing damage per minute with Meso Explosion.
     
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    Actually, most CBs I've met level up from Lv70 killing Bigfoot. This is a great source of EXP for them.
    Let's assume this particular CB was not doing anything wrong, then I still agree with you that his behavior seemed a bit too hostile. I have experienced this myself too, people yelling "cc plz" so fast that your screen didn't even load the map yet and you basically didn't breath a single molecule of virtual oxygen from their map. Still they want you to leave. It makes them look more suspicious and fishy than they probably are. But it's only their loss, after all.
    The fact that he actually reported you to get you banned just makes him look unnecessary suspicios. Now I don't know what mess you caused there so I can't really say anything on the matter, but if someone bans another when they simply entered the map and idling there... It seems a bit unnecessary.
     
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    Some few people on this server seem to find joy in getting others banned. I'm assuming you're telling the truth and then the only thing you did wrong was accidently entering the wrong map, to stumble upon one of these people.
    He might be technically right when he is interpreting the ToC but in my opinion, some are just abusing the ToC for personal gain. They are not interested in the common good of the server.
     
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    TY Tim
     
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    1. Sounds pretty fair.
    2. Have problem with this?
    3. STOP accusing my friends and guildmates, I'm so tired of watching them complain about you in buddy/alliance chat...
     
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    You’re not above the rules, stop trying to do your pseudo dectective work while breaking the rules based on your assumptions.

    If you knew anything about the game Chief Bandits solo BF from 71 onwards in around 10minutes, maybe less. You drop mesos for around 5minutes in darksight and just bomb for the next 2-3.
     
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    Yes you are doing a pseudo assumption here because you don’t even know who the player is and you are trying to portray him a hacker just because you got salt he got you banned.
     
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    Nothing funnier than weird foreigners trying to sound smart in the responses above me. Just lol.

    How anybody in their right mind thinks that a player should be banned for simply being in a map is beyond me.


    Wannabe vigilante players go around to training/farming maps recording and harassing players accusing them of “botting” if they dont talk to them and everybody is like woo yeah u go!!

    Then we have a dude just standing in a map simply curious how a level 80 is soloing Bigfoot and you guys have the audacity to claim he’s in the wrong/deserving of a ban. Ass backwards mentality.
     
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    'weird foreigners' lol
     
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    Y'all are so toxic and frankly on a witch hunt trying to get everyone banned for the dumbest stuff. Sorry you got banned for something you don't think is fair but there is no need for publicly complaining that GMs are not banning everyone at your will.
     
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    If you want something on the more honest side of my opinion.

    I would’ve reported you.
    A lot of new players get griefed by warriors on bigfoot. They think its humourous to rush the BF into them and then kill it after they’re dead.
    I can understand your frustraion but this server is big, its popular.

    It’d take too long to judge each case in an individualistic manner. They judge things very close to the book.

    I’m sure you looked at the ban appeals when you applied. They get at least 4-8 appeals perday and many times only admins can access half of those cases.

    If you were to send in plausible evidence against this. Your best bet would be you both got banned.
     
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    Think of it like a sports game. Sure there are rules, sure say 2 people break the rule. But the refs (GMs) aren't omnipotent beings. They can only act on what they see, so if they see 1 of the 2 people breaking the rules, they can penalize that person and sure the other guy is breaking the rule, but they don't see it so they can't do anything about it. Remember that GMs are human's with lives, they aren't online 24/7/365 just looking for every hacker/rule breaker, they have other things to deal with like character issues, bugs, etc. Yeah it sucks and yeah it can feel biased as fuck, but in the end, you just gotta play it right yourself and you'll be fine.

    In the case of RoyalCupcake, from what I can gather, I don't understand HOW you lost mapownership, but the fact that you did and tried to fight it there instead of through the proper channels to begin with is what doomed you. You can't call out the ref and scream at them saying "you didn't see it but it happened" and expect them to be able to do anything about it.
     
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    From my understanding, cupcake used mapowner just before the kser came in so ~mapowner command was on cd. When cupcake tried to show the mapowner to the kser who just appeared, mapowner command didn't appear but cupcake made a grave mistake here. He/she stopped attacking while kser ofc carried on attacking. Since cupcake didn't attack for ~3min, mapownership was lost. What he/she should have done was kept on attacking the lyka while repeatedly attempting to type ~mapowner, not giving up after 1 failed try.
     
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    That's the mistake. In doing so, he gave up mapownership and lost the map meaning he is now in the wrong. Even proving that you HAD mapownership is meaningless. You lost it and someone else took it. That's how it is. The smart thing to do would've been to ensure you kept mapownership and let them KS the Lyka and get them banned.
     

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