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  1. oren levi
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    Last thing you did: Participating in Anego hunting pt as HS
    Why do you think you got banned?: killing Anego while didn't own map
    Ban message when attempting to log in: Your account has been blocked for hacking or illegal use of third-party programs. 14 day ban.


    Well, the map owner stood/afked in the far end of the map so we didn't actually see her. by the time she did the "~mapowner" thing Anego was below 10% hp, so giving the mapowner the Anego at this point would have been kinda pointless imo, as the mapowner would hardly get any exp at this point.
    If it makes any difference, I didn't even attack the Anego, just used HS.

    I don't have any screenshots of this incident.
     
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    You're not banned for ksing. You are banned for glitch abuse or association with someone abusing a glitch.
     
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    Huh, what glitch? i actually had no idea.
    are you referring to pinning the mob in the corner of the map? is taht considered a glitch?
     
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    that is not considered a glitch.
     
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    why was i banned then? got no idea atm
     
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    performing meso explosion without losing the dropped money by precise positioning
     
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    how could i even know the shadower was doing that? i had no idea such a bug exists in the first place
     
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    Okay, so can i just know how to detect a bug-abusing shadower?
    don't wanna get re-banned for the same thing
     
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    when a shadower doesnt drop any new mesos but they are still spamming meso explosion shouldnt you wonder about why thats happening?
     
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    Uhh when hunting Female Bosses as a Bishop, a support class, i just buff my party members and get far from the mob, so i won't get hit.
    i don't actually see what the shadower is doing, or any of my pt for that matter.
    your argument would 100% be relevant if we were killing zakum or krexel for exmple, not so much for Anegos, at least as i see it.
     
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    your argument would be a little bit relevant if u were not standing in the exact same spot as the shadower who were hitting anego while the glitch was going on.
     
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    Well, if me and the shadower were standing in the same spot it must have been just for a moment so i can HS, for the vast majority of the fight i didn't get close to the anego.
    by momentary seeing an abusing shadower I couldn't acutally understand he's not losing money, plus i weren't aware such a bug exists in the first place.
    i mean, for the VAST majority of fights i wasn't around the shadower while he was dropping money, usually i was searching other channels for anegos at that time.
    usually i would just see the shadower using meso explosion momentarily when i approach for a HS. shadowers tend to drop all their meso sacks in the same spot, and because of the way animation works in 2D games and specifically in maplestory, i couldn't know exactly how many sacks the shadower dropped, hence i couldn't know he wasn't losing money.
    it could be any amount of sacks, from roughly 15 to 120, and i have no way to know what number of sacks it actually is.

    if i weren't clean on the 2d thing, skip to 00:31 here ->
    could you know how many sacks he dropped just by seeing the 00:31 image? i know i couldn't
    btw, it's 63 sacks.
     
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    I don't think anyone asked you to know how many sacks were in one spot.

    You were standing in a postion close enough to see the following: the shadower droping mesos for only 5 seconds, the shadower spam meso explosion for more than half a minute after just having dropped for 5 seconds, there were no meso explosion animation at the bags he had dropped and was using to damage the boss and he was doing a lot more dmg than a legit shadower usually does because he was droping higher value bags. All of this happened from the moment you found anego till it was around 50% hp left.
     
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    Well ok, first of all, most of the time i didn't see him drop meso bags at all. as i said, usually i wasn't around for that, so he could have dropped meso bags for 40 seconds just as well from my percpective.
    in addition, i wouldn't know if he stopped meso exploding to drop new meso bags, cuz i wasn't near him.
    Secondly, about the animation thing- i actaully remember the animation worked fine, but i could be wrong. i didn't know about existence of such a bug so i guess that at the time no animation didn't look that weird to me- the game has many bugs, no animation bug on meso explosion shouldn't seem that extravagant, so maybe i don't remember it.
    Thirdly, about the high dmg- I never had a CB, i actually was surprised by Tin's dmg and he replied to that by asking if i'm new to the game. it should be in the chat log.
     
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    What i said previously were just the events that took place that earned you a ban. Either way if you noticed or not, you did gain an unfair advantage from partying with a glitch abuser which is why you are banned.
     
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    what do you mean "Either way if you noticed or not"?
    you're gonna ban me for a crime i didn't commit and wasn't even aware of?
     
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    After staff discussion we have decided to unban you for this incident.
    We strongly advise you be more careful with who you are partied with so it doesn't happen again.
     
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    Just gonna have to boycott shadowers i guess.
    lost roughly 230m just from candles and sun becoming obsolete, plus around 8 treasure maps.

    Fun
     
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    We wouldn't have gone through the appeal process had you been more responsible, so let's not divert blame onto staff for missing out on the events.
     
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