Can someone explain to me why final attack isnt good? i swear all i can see is ppl saying its bad, not to add it and what not. the only explanations i see explaining it is the slash blast explanation. but heres the thing: no one uses that shitty skill in bossing. i'd like to know why for the following jobs: hero, pally, dark knight, mm, bm, u dun add final attack. just a point to note, i do recall seeing somewhere that final attack is kinda good but i dun rly get it. Spoiler ye i didnt rly bother abt the spelling and stuff but its readable Spoiler pls dun throw the fking slash blast explanation back at me. im sick and tired of reading that crap
Is shit because when it proc it does 250% dmg only. And u cant do anything else like potting so u got to wait for the animation to go off. (Around half a second) But is good for powerstrjke from what i read
Well for archers it only works on the 1st job skills+arrow bomb. With the 1st job skills it can increase your dps a little bit but since in 3rd job strafe is a lot better than double shot/arrow blow (and final attack doesn't work with it) it becomes quite useless. The bigger problem though is that it works with arrow bomb and the damage spreads with it (like it does with slash blast) making your mobbing with arrow bomb weaker and your stuns less consistent. And unlike double shot, arrow bomb is never really replaced and I used it even at late 4th job when grinding tot maps so leveling final attack will harm you in the long run. As for other classes, with spearman it's the same thing like archers: once you get to 3rd job there is no point to use the 1st job skills anymore (which won't work with final attack) so it's get useless pretty quickly, and while it doesn't harm you in the long run you could use the skill points to make a hybrid dk with both spears and pole arms (which is quite good in 3rd job and can be interesting to use 2 weapons). As for heroes/paladins, I don't think leveling it is particularly bad with these classes and it mostly depends if you use power strike or slash blast more often. If you use power strike a lot then you might actually benefit from final attack but if you use slash blast mostly (which is usually the case since there is no bossing in lower levels) then it will be better to not level it since it's weak with slash blast. It won't really matter in the long run though cause it doesn't work with brandish/blast anyway. Also for MMs I heard the final attack is a lot slower than the BM one so you should avoid leveling it altogether cause it will actually lower your dps
I can think of one reason off the bat; It's chance based and you'd actually waste time attacking the air if you didnt want it the proc to occur. You would want maximum control over your character to adjust and reposition, FA screws over your ability to do so.
For warrior, the cons of FA isn't as drastic as it is for Archer. Hero especially gain a slight advantage to gain orb faster though that only matters if you use Coma / Panic a lot. The distribution of FA on mobs being equal (250%/6) is actually wrong and it works more like Iron Arrow where the more mobs you hit the less damage the monster will receive in descending order. But yes it is rather redundant for Dark Knight as Buster / Fury completely replace Power Strike and Slash Blast in 3rd job. For Hero and Paladin however FA may actually help, though not by a large margin, since they use Power Strike and Slash Blast until 4th job especially if you prefer to kill bosses like HH / the ghost captain in Singapore / some various other field bosses to level up. For archer however FA poses more problems than benefits. For non-washing Archer that isn't leeching and actually train, FA will pose a risk of you dying due to how you're immobilised when executing FA. It also messes up Arrow Bomb and Iron Arrow (less emphasis on Iron Arrow since Piercing Arrow replaces it but Arrow Bomb is mostly due to how critical works multiplicatively on Arrow Bomb until it is the strongest mobbing skill for Bowmasters even in 4th job with SE) as mentioned. I'll say you definitely don't want to touch FA as an archer. And yes, the time where your FA triggers but there's no monster in front of you may also be annoying especially for OCD players.
I used to have Final Attack maxed on Hero and Paladin before the universal sp reset. -It's not helpful for Slash Blast because of the damage being spread out which makes it much weaker against multiple monsters -It nudges you forward which wasn't helpful to me since I like to jump attack with full control -It can activate a lot when you already killed the monster or if you reached your max combo and want to use coma -Power Striking may seem faster with Final Attack at bosses, but having to constantly adjust after the nudging seems to cancel that out If Final Attack was twice as fast as it is now I think it would be worth using with all its faults.
For DrK, IMO it's better to go hybrid as using polearm and using fury deals more damage than Spear using fury and theres no downside of going hybrid. While adding final attack, if it procs you can't use another slashblast and the damage from FA is underwhelming
kk so basically: for bms its just useless most of the time as long and affects ur arrow bombing for mm it fks with ur control over ur char for drk its just useless but remaining questions are for hero and pally, does FA work with blast/brandish? i think tats like the main thing i rly wanna know since i was referring to bossing after 4th job and shit
When i got to wk, i actually sp reset to max FA because white knights are so slow and have no edge whatsoever compared to the other two warriors, or any other classes. They are easily the worst 3rd job class in the game by a long shot. I went back to max FA for these reasons: -When it procs, it fires off really fast. It speeds my damage output by a lot against headless horseman. It's super fast, even for a hammer user (myself) -it's replaced in 4th job so if it makes third job faster, yes lord please save me -dps/dpm *do not matter* in third job -the slash blast reduction doesnt matter because the first strike does a lot, and the fa damage against the first three mobs is perfectly serviceable, killing the first 3 or so quickly will always be more important and pulling other mobs in from your attacks secondary, but again it fires off really fast, i dont see how people even notice it unless they are self concsious about the sixth mob on the second attack taking reduced damage. -and if youre using ice charge, quickly freezing mobs walking into your fa range is a perk I really think the pros outweigh the cons, mostly because fa is gone in 4th job when serious dps/dpm happens, not in third Im going to be maxing a crusader with max FA soon, but i expect my results to be exactly the same, only more stable damage because there are no elements to worry about and the skills between crusader/wk wouldn't change any of my results, but they would charge combo faster til 4th job
