hello, I was banned for botting, and I was under the impression that the keyboard macro i used to allow me to cast skills autonomously fell under number 4 on this list, because it fits every description of that definition Moderate Infractions: Staff Impersonation - The act of expressing, implying, or otherwise stating that you or your actions are endorsed by MapleRoyals staff, that you are a part of our administration or staff team when you are not, claiming privileges or rights by association to staff, or misleading players to believe any of the above. Punishment: First offense - 7 day ban, Second offense - Permanent ban. Solicitation - The act of advertising or soliciting any sort of commercial opportunities of any nature, including chain letters, pyramid schemes, investment opportunities or commercial advertising, or additionally providing access to any location that does the above. Punishment: First offense - 7 day ban, Second offense - Permanent ban. Information Harvesting (Stalking) - The act of collecting any information about the game or any individual associated with the game, including players, ownership or any involved third-parties, without their expressed consent, regardless of the location of the act. Punishment: First offense - 7 day ban, Second offense - Permanent ban. Glitch Abuse - The act of exploiting any errors in game design or any features or bugs, documented or otherwise, that are not meant to be available in order to gain any sort of competitive advantage. Punishment: First offense - 14 day ban, Second offense- Permanent ban. Robotic Play - The act of engaging in robotic or automatic play which allows any character you own to function autonomously or affect any portion of the game without your presence. Punishment: First offense - 7 day ban, Second offense - Permanent ban. Vote Abuse - The act of attempting to, or successfully, bypassing the restrictions of voting no more than once per 24 hours. Punishment: First offense - 14 day ban, Second offense - Permanent ban. Please be aware that, in cases of severe abuse as per discretion of staff, we reserve the right to respond with a permanent ban regardless of if it is your first offense. But I have recieved a permanent ban for violating number 2, even though my offence clearly pertains more to a moderate infraction. Major Infractions: Account Hacking - The act of accessing, restricting, or inhibiting any game account of which was not initially created by you by any means, including any sort of account phishing, editing or defacing of the game, or additionally, the act of soliciting or attempting to obtain any private account information from any individual who owns an account on MapleRoyals through any method. Punishment: Permanent ban. Game Hacking - The act of using or benefiting from any third-party program, macro program or otherwise defacing or modifying any part of the game software to gain any sort of advantage over other players, or otherwise selling, advertising, distributing or posting information related to the act. Punishment: Permanent ban. i guess my question is why even have robotic play under moderate infractions, if the only way to play that way is with a macro? which one is it really?
Robotic play is people who don’t pay attentiom to their game or have a rock on a key or some sort. You admitted to macro botting. Macroing is using third party programs and is written down in the rules. Literally says macro program. edit: Usually when any third party programs are invovled it moves into game hacking cause you’re editing files or adding additional scripts. Game Hacking - The act of using or benefiting from any third-party program, macro program or otherwise defacing or modifying any part of the game software to gain any sort of advantage over other players, or otherwise selling, advertising, distributing or posting information related to the act. Punishment: Permanent ban.
I know what I did was against the rules, but I genuinely would not have done it had i known for sure that it was going to be a permanent ban. I just got bored of holding my spacebar for hours killing newties and wanted my keyboard to hold it for me. all i did was play on my phone at my computer while it happened. I don't think that's grounds for a permanent ban at all.
I’m not a GM but the GMs always quote something on the lines of: Ignorance isn’t our fault. Should’ve read the first rule of T&C or the T&C in general Section 1. Overview By registering a game account with MapleRoyals, you are agreeing to the terms and conditions stated below. Not trying to mock or tease you. Just trying to inform you. It happens a lot. And generally the responses are the same.
just saying, if i'm perm banned that's on me, but they could clarify by removing the whole robotic play section, because that's what is confusing to me. putting a rock on your keyboard is not a robot, and it wont't work due to moves not working after a while anyways. just remove that part entirely, because i thought i fell under robotic play 100%.
You know what macroing is. And stated it was macroing. Even if Robotic Play is vague for new players. Marcoing isn’t stated in robotic play, game hacking clearly states third party programs: such as macro commands. Can give you a permanent ban. I’m not sure if you decided to read the T/C after you got banned or before, but it sounds like you were convinced you could get away with a one time slap on the wrist.
a macro is in no way shape or form "game hacking". literally anybody with any knowledge of computers knows this. game hacking implies exactly what it's name is, modification of game files. a button on my keyboard that mimics other buttons is not a hack in the slightest.
They consider any program editing or additional programs “game hacking” Including program assited meso wheel for increased speed dropping. Or using potions/skills off your mouse buttons. I don’t really know where I stand on such rules but I don’t do it. I can see where you’re sorta going but I’ll just try to tell them what they would probably say from their word of mouth. There were huge controversies and flame threads about the meso wheel drop a few months back. People have been banned for weirder things unfortunately.
That is an absolutely archaic ruleset set if true. no using mouse buttons for potions? jesus christ, my mouse has almost my whole moveset on it. macros are all over, most people use them. I know that mine was against the rules, but it should have fallen under robotic play since it was in no way hacking the game.
I can understand your frustration. To be fair, without seeing those feedback forums flame discussions, a lot more would be in the grey area for me. Can’t really help you out much than inform you. Happy new years I guess.
Read the rules more carefully. The robotic play rule has its place, which is to stop people from just putting a heavy object on their key to allow their character to perform some action without their presence. The rule names might be misleading but if you actually read the t&c I think it should be pretty clear that macro botting is a perma ban offence. It is allowed to remap keys if you do it on a 1:1 basis.
it doesnt even say macro "botting" it just says "macro program". that includes a wide range of people. i'm getting perma banned for a rule that doesn't even exist. if you want macro "botting" to be a permenant offense you should write it that way, or ban literally every person that bind a mouse button to a key on their keyboard.
sry I dont want to flame you or make you mad but maybe try to take it as a lesson for the future: maybe do not try to do something against the rules if you already know it is... I'd say it is actually pretty clear from that T&C that using a macro is a major offense on this server eventhough it seems to be stupid (to me).
Thats good to know that i would have been permabanned for using the convenience of my mouse buttons before all of this happened anyways. if anybody with influence reads this, please change the wording on your rules. they should be clear and concise and not up for interpretation. they may make sense to you because you've been around them for so long, but coming from somebody that doesn't know them too well, you really need to tighten up the definitions and categories. I would have liked to keep playing this server, but now I can't because of a misunderstanding with the posted rules.
I don't think this would be a case open to interpretation; in your ban appeal, you admitted to have "set up a keyboard macro to hold my skill key for 14 seconds and then move to avoid move staling, killing newties", which is a script, and, according to the Appendices:
I do not know anyone who died just for to ask something that doesn't know, interpreting is not the same as not knowing, you wanted to accommodate the rules at your convenience, but deep down you knew that creating a script to do things for you was wrong, as a friend says "Do not do good things that look bad, or bad things that look good".
