Updating to v83

Well, this might seem like a far fetched suggestion but I'd like to put forth a proposal anyway.

As an active player on this server, I've done nearly all there is to be done with the exception of Horntail; now I have a great time doing these things but for the most part there isn't much to do outside of Zakum right now and even long term with Horntail, I know it will becomes very dry and I'm sure that effect will if not, already has rubbed on players, I mean there isn't too much to do.

I think updating to v83 will broaden what we as players can do and achieve, and it will make things a lot more interesting. It will introduce new maps, bosses, jobs, items and just a LOT more things to do; and I understand the idea of nostalgia, but v83 isn't going to ruin that, it's still very old and a LOT more popular than v62 when advertised.

Anyway, I doubt this will happen but this is more than merely a suggestion, it is a growing trend I am hearing from many of my buddies, a LOT who have become very active as there's not much to do.

If need by, I will gladly survey the server and return with a consensus on what people think.

Cheerio!

 

I love 83. big thumbs up.
tho as a alternative: more high LVL content

 

There are only 2 decent V62 servers right now, and this one is the best. No reason to change that when there are plenty of v83 servers to choose from.

I agree with the high level content though.

 

Can someone compile a list of what's added between v62 and v83? Or link me to somewhere where this info exists.

I know Dojo is v75, and ToT+PB should be v.7x? v83 is Aran?

 

Cwkpq, Belt slot, Neo City, Cygnus, Hammers, Family system, Various pq's & more

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes/00Eix is v83 patch info from nexon, could just check all previous patches if u really wanna know

 

v83 comes with more classes and I'm going to venture to say that's the reason why it was not the one chosen for this server.

Excellent list of what happened when on global: http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-What-Came-When-in-GMS-283.html

 

I've been wondering the reason for going with v62. There's really none game breaking elements added to v83 in comparison to v62, only good ones. V62 is just less, with no big changes. I actually thought v62 didn't have White Scrolls, which was the reason I joined. Now chimney of course, that's arguable but even that could be blocked quite easily. Oh, and Scissors of Karma and wheel of destiny, but even those can be blocked.

Now, I've no idea how Matt thinks but I've made up a theory. Giving us only v62 will make us try to reach the limit of v62. And once that's been reached the server can be updated to a newer version which gives us many new goals and more to do. Where as normally the old players will leave and new players take their place, this way both can keep on going. Instead of going with only one version, this way the server can live for a very long time.
But that's just a theory.

 

Matt has said before changing from v62 to v83 would wipe all the accounts

 

i actually like this idea tbh i was enjoying maple a lot untill potential system came out i like the bigger variety of bosses and endgame stuff...i dont rly care about version or wipes (i actually love wipes ) 0.83 would be cool with some of the OP stuff blocked (for example the chimney) im highly up for this but i doubt that it will be happening any time soon

 

I like that it's v62 personally. I'm here for v62.

 

LITERALLY ALL MY NOPES. We are v62 for the nostalgic experience. Just because it's pre-BB doesn't mean it's nostalgic. All those things you listed that we'd gain by going from 62 to 83? Those are things we DON'T want. Also I believe this has been brought up before and was swiftly shot down.

 

This right here. I'm here for v62. I wasn't even playing Maplestory when v83 came out. It's not nostalgic to me.

 

all those things you listed are things we dont want?
Man do you even know what you're saying.. theres alot of good stuff in v83 :O!! ofcourse you are entitled to your own opinion. just wondering what content exactly do you hate so much?

I guess we wont get v83 if this was brought up & rejected before, but losing so much good (highlvl) content.. its possible to add those in without patching up ? for example CWKPQ?

 

Exactly what briceyo said. There might be a few players that are here for v62, but most are just for pre-bb experience.

There's really nothing nostalgic in v62 that wouldn't be in v83 anyways. Maybe rolling dice, but that doesn't work here anyways, and easier bigfoot.

The updates that were added to v83 do not take away from the nostalgic experience that this server provides in any way. Does maker for equips remove it? No, already removed with godly item function (not complaining, I like it). And already listed the few things that could be blocked easily. There just simply is more good things in v83 that do not drastically change the experience.

But pointless to discuss about this if it cannot be done. Though, was it artemisms or cobaltbluems that actually did upgrade to a higher version without losing anything. But I don't know about these things so this might be a different case.

 

I had been playing lowrate v0.83 for 3-4 years before I came here, and I can tell you that yes, it does indeed take away a big part of the nostalgia (imo). In addition to that v0.83 completely threw off alot the balance within the game, and this is me speaking objectively. Don't tell me otherwise.

Sure you can disable alot of the content, but that's alot of trouble, don't you think?

 

I wouldn't be pissed if we upgraded to v83, but V62 works on Linux... which I really, really, like.

 

Might just be because of that, you changed from a newer versions to an older after playing the newer a lot. But when you've been swip swapping between these two instead, the difference is almost non-existent. Just goes to the point where you want the version which provides a more fulfilling experience.

 

I know Matt will see this thread soon enough but I thought I'd show you guys what he said last time this was brought up

"Okay this is what I think about changing version. I am not flaming or anything, this it just what I think based on my own opinion and based on feedback I have received from players.

The negative effects it will have on players and the server...
All accounts will most likely need to be wiped an everyone will need to start again.
We would lose a LOT of players... Over half the current active players are from gtop100 and not from demethos.eu anymore. Why have so many players chosen our server over other v62 severs? Because...
We are v62
Nostalgic. In my opinion I don't think v83 is nostaligic with pink bean, timeless weapons, hammers and soks and areas like ToT, Neo City, Mushroom castle, aran, KoC's etc...
There are already loads of VERY good v83 servers and players want something different.
These players don't want 1/1/1 rates and we are 10/5/5 which is not so soul-destroying to play
We have working merchants which is quite rare for v62
We have people that actually attempt to fix bugs, compared to most other v62 servers.
We have a great forum and friendly community compared to others I have seen.
I do not think we could compete with the v83 servers.
Yes the v83 sources are very stable and have next to no bugs but what will make us stand out from the crowd? Whatever it would be... would take some time to code and implement.
All the work put into this server would be lost. You may not think that much work has been put into it yet but some things like: Getting the merchants to work, getting GMS-Like job advancements, Making the custom NPC's, Making 4th job give you the correct skills and mastery levels, all the work put into gachapon would need to be changed, all the work put into adding monster drops to monsters that did not have any/correct drops would be wasted.
There is a lot more content in v83 that would need looking after, and more content means more possible bugs and exploits.
v83 is so popular at the moment that I'm sure that there are many people that know some really bad exploits of the current stable sources.
I really do not think moving to v83 will fix any of the crash or monsters not dropping items glitches. I am almost certain this is an issue with the windows server configuration, java configuration or heap dump configuration. I have offered to pay money to anyone who knows the solution to this. Hopefully we can figure this out soon.

The things I do like about v83 are quite limited... to be honest my mindset seems so set on not changing versions that I cannot think of anything I like about it. If anything I would prefer to downgrade versions, not upgrade.

About the current bugs...
Apart from the glitch regarding mob attacks, no monster drops & no spawn there are actually currently no other critical bugs.
Some major bugs include monster quest drops (which is actually pretty easy to fix), PQ's not working (again, kind of easy to fix), and a couple of important skills do not work properly.
Then you have the moderate and low priority bugs which are either not fixable or are again kind of easy to fix, but these are not on the top of my agenda right now.
So really, we don't have too many bugs... and most of them are fixable

To sum up...
these are the main reasons why I do not think we should change version...
Our community is growing at an incredible rate, this can obviously only mean good things, and our server is almost the rank 1 v62 server on gtop. Why would we want to lose that? Surely we must be doing something right? Changing versions now seems like server suicide.
Yes the content is a little limited BUT there is something called WZ editing... This means eventually once we get everything sorted out... this is something which looks very interesting indeed. It allows you to create your own ANYTHING basically. Yeah, of course it will take some time but it means we could have some hairs from newer versions or make custom hairs... Or make a new monster, a new boss, or a new map... even a new whole town... and even a new job class if I wanted... you may think that this would take away some of the nostalgia - maybe slightly - but I think the main part of nostalgia here is the lack of items, classes and areas. These all also contribute to making PQ's worthwhile.

Don't really know what else to say. I've probably missed a few things. If I think of any I will reply again."

One important line to take out of that: "The things I do like about v83 are quite limited... to be honest my mindset seems so set on not changing versions that I cannot think of anything I like about it. If anything I would prefer to downgrade versions, not upgrade.

 

IMO, there are two levels of nostalgia. One level includes V62, V75, and V83. That is the genuine Pre-BB era. The similarity is...similar.

Ok, now there is fking V55. I won't mention any other pservers here, but I tried one v55 that was 1x1x1 rate. And yeah, that's a whole different nostalgia. It was headbanging ridiculous grinding. Like, suicide. And even if you apply 10X5X5 rates to it, it's still insane. Was there like... an exp change between v55 and 62?

I DONT LIKE CHIMNEY EITHER!



KoC- Yeah that was pointless. Just a shortcut for less-dedicated players...
BoF- I made BoF characters just so I could have it on V83 servers...I thought it was cool!
SoK- agreed. Gotta earn what ya get.
Chimney- yeah, it's dumb. Waste of levels that could be used to farm useful things.
Hammers- does v62 not have hammers?
Maker- yeah, it is crap.

 

i think v75 is best source..

its same nostalgic as v62, nothing too much change expect more PQs, items and etc..