Lately I've been seeing this more and more often. PQs are empty, people smega R>PQ. You find yourself AFKing, waiting for people to PQ with, only to find that guy with the 700 base INT and min points in main stat saying "I wash". Ok, well washing is common. We all wash. I wash. We enter the PQ and he AFKs, claiming he cant attack (well obviously he will be weaker right?) he shows the party his damage as a way to make his AFKing acceptable: 1. He hits 1s at level 30-70~ The XP becomes poor from the lack of killing and participation and the fact that party splits the XP. Basically you've got leeched for free. Washing and leeching is a part of the game and it should continue to be. But having 200 base INT means it will take you 2.4 bill to get rid of it, and thats without even washing! No, you dont need 30k hp at level 100. Yes your hero is tanky enough to survive bossing. Also, leeching is wayyyyy more quicker XP than leeching a level 32 page at CPQ. No mesos for leech? well atleast your saving for the 5B you gonna spend on washing huh? In my opinion the lack of team-play and partying makes the game boring. Games are meant to be played right? My honest suggestion for players: If you want to wash, most of the times having INT gear will be enough. Or even some base INT is more than enough. And for the staff: buff partying? I've seen some amazing threads about it already so I'm not gonna add more on that. Thank you for reading my rant and feel free to comment your opinion.
You only run into this when it's a NL or BM because it takes them 12 mp per wash. 200 int is really common for those classes. I even had a friend do 360 int for his NL and that's just how some people want to do it. If an NL wants to tank Toad hits, this kind of washing has to be done. That being said, I would agree that 90% of people who play don't need to go this hard on washing. Warriors also have no excuse because washing to 30k is ez pz. Next time you are making a party, just ignore them :^) P.S.-I don't expect the staff to ever make any sort of buff to party grinding because it's been talked about for almost as long as leeching has existed and nothing has been done.
We've been here many many many many many times before. The staff will always say that washing is not mandatory, and honestly they're not entirely wrong, it really just makes the game easier later on (No need for reliance of HB, and being able to survive bosses without worry of in-game mechanics). On the other hand, literally every NL/BM/Sair/non-warrior I know who is aware of hp-washing and did not make it as their first class has a minimum of 200 int in their ap.(A rough number I know, but enough int to gimp themselves in the early game) And as what you said, this renders their class useless until they remove their int. I don't like the idea of it either but to make your class self-sufficient in end game bosses, what needs to be done, has to be done. It really depends what you define as enough. To some people having the bare minimum hp requirement for ht (around 7.5k) is enough, however I know some people who'd wash to 30k for a nl. Everyone has their own path they'd choose, and yes it sucks to party with the 200int nl but at the end of the day, they'd probably be self sufficient to leech themselves till whenever, without the need of pqing. There's no point discussing about early party training cause noone's gonna do it until at least 12x. (That's the level people might consider washing out). The inherent problem is the fact that people CAN gain more hp by having more int added into their ap, and WILL continue to do so. If that mechanic was removed entirely, and instead tweak how additional HP can be gained, I'd be curious to see how the game plays out.
If those people would like to play the game in that way, that's fine, but don't join PQ's without warning the party first that you are mostly useless. Perhaps give each member of the party some mesos as a thanks for the leech?
The funny thing is that today the guy who somehow made it so he hits 1s told me "If u wont wash, ppl won't want to add you to party" Ironic isnt it?
Not saying that I agree with you, but I f you actually want a solution: can’t enter a boss map, PQ, or gain party EXP if you aren’t a mage and have more than 4 base INT (gear is not factored in). This will make the whole miss independent self-reliant too good for normal parties crowd livid, but it’ll actually teach them what self-reliance is and make it far more challenging to create an INT base character (they actually have to train alone). Main issue is that stuff like this needs to be implemented from day 1. It can’t be thrown in now as the playing field will become far too uneven
