Closed Ban Appeal

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    Please understand that you received 8 * Billion meso coins at 2019-03-06 around 08:00 server time, all chat logs surrounding that time and date refer to you having sold a cape and scrollign a new cape, failing that and purchasing your cape back. I could find no mention of anything else regarding purchases in your chat logs at that time and date which leaves us at a gain of 8B for seemingly nothing else
     
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    Yes, i do understand that. However, i also understand that the 8b was NOT for nothing and that it has NOT been the only time this amount or more has been in trade in the last month. The point you miss is I started with SELLING my own gear. I did not GAIN 8b, let alone out of nowhere.

    If i would've purchased them, shouldn't my net worth have grown by 8b? If i would've bought them on top of all i already had, how comes my net worth is still the same/little lower yet my gear worse? I told you, i downgraded my shoes and made other sales, i had enough B coins incoming. And i do have evidence for that, yet still you want to claim i received the mesos for seemingly nothing..?? Do you understand that point too?

    It might not have been the same exact moment that we discussed prices and traded. Could've been some time in between.. even up to a day or week+ maybe, with these biggest sales. That doesn't mean i got the mesos for nothing, if we didn't discuss it in all chat at the same time of selling. Since when is this a must or normal to do? Some may be started by whisp once or twice i'm sure, where they would ask me for price after i smega'd and then i would invite or tell them to offer in whisper. But to really discuss and agree on a price the chat option is the way to go i feel. Sometimes, after agreeing on a price, i would keep the item for a set time to give them time to liquidate their assets. When they did, i would be invited or whisped/spoken to in buddy chat and we would only meet up in FM to make the trade, without any talking outside trade basically. I'm telling you these things to give you insight in that discussing those prices in all chat or smth is not common, or how i roll at least. Selling them immediatly is also not common. But none the less my shoes are lower att? I assume you know the worth of 14 att stompers? I smega selling 14 att's. And from 13->12 That proofs i sold? like... My current shoe is 11 att..

    In the messenger logs you can also see all people i discussed things with for either shoe or cape, goggles/d.khanjar/ resets or any of the big sales i made.
    Isn't this enough proof?

    Maybe you can check on the RWT'rs end if he sold a high att shoe(12/13/14) or a 14 att PGC? That would also prove my innocense.

    The 13 att cape has nothing to do with 8b coins, just makes no sense but since you want me to get back to it again;

    The specifics of this trade were 9 att 4 slot bfc +2b~3b for my 13 att pgc. We didn't just trade cape. Besides that I already had plenty mesos set aside to try scrolling the cape and afford the 13 att cape buy-back in case things go wrong, after my downgrades in raw meso/B Coins already, a bunch of CS/WS and also had alot worth in AP resets + other items that were still up for sale like i mentioned before. Why would i even want or need to buy mesos with real money? There is again no sense in this.
    If you would've checked Gyuwi smega's as i asked, there is proof i sold my shoes or was selling them in the same time/a little before the cape buyback etc and would help explain how i got the mesos. I still DONT believe the 13 att cape story and ANY 8b+ coin trade were on the same day either.

    Since the 13 att cape story is only a small piece of all chat convo i had with her and the only thing you say you found,while imo there is ALOT more to be found that would actually explain it all. I have to assume you dont want to get into those or?
    But again bring up the 13 att cape while imo these 2 have nothing to do with eachother.. Prices are not even in the same range, doesn't make any sense. However, the lines i provide you do make sense, so please search the lines i give you aswell so you will see im speaking the truth and don't get hung up on only trying to proof your hunch.

    Because you say 8b for seemingly nothing, SEEMINGLY. You're banning me on a hunch Tim..! As a veteran player, i do not appreciate this.

    So how can i prove my innocense? All i claimed about my net worth and sales is true. I'm urging you to compare my gear to what it was before and calculate it yourself. Your hunch was justified since one buyer seems to be an RWT'r and you have to figure out the truth but then do so, and figure out the truth..! don't let me explain the same things over and over while you clearly didn't follow the leads i gave you to proof my innocense.

    All information i have given you should prove my innocense.. if it doesn't in your opinion then tell me what i can do to clear any last misunderstandings.
    Don't just start about an unrelated buy/sale again.

    The only option is that the 8B trade was for one of the downgrades, yet you ASSUME it was for seemingly nothing (since the mesos came from a RWT'r in hindsight) but if you would check my messenger logs (the chat you get invited too almost like trade, to clear confusions) there have to be ALL the deals i made and discussed besides the Hi, offer? For instance when i saw someone smega to buy, or in FM, but then i would trade to discuss.

    Common sense + the smega's + my item stats etc and net worth before + my merching + the amount of time a day i play + the detailed explanations and timeline should be enough to clear my name.
     
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    Btw status update. I asked my friend to ask Riellex3 if she was the one who purchased my cape and sold it back to me, since i remembered her name coz we spoke more and added eachother to buddy, but was not 100% sure. I am now. Once again, it was a legit trade. Completely different person than the AM though and when you said: "I already checked your chat logs surrounding the date and time of you receiving the 8B coins by trade and you and an ice mage talk about buying your 13 atk cape back from them for 5,5-5,75B and/or 2 hours of leech" is unrelated and simply untrue. It's not even an ice mage. She's a DK too if i remember correctly. So uhm.. please Tim. Think about what you are doing here..

    Having a hunch is okay but enough is enough. Seems like you kinda twist some things to favour your hunch while i have told you everything + more..
     
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    And on top off all this, i want to add that with only selling low level leech at 80~90m an hour for solo/split. Sometimes 100m solo buyers, i can make like 8b in a week. This is excluding my boss runs from 2 characters and any gach or AP resets selling + merching, which i do quite much. 8b is honestly a few days work, why on earth would i risk my account to RWT to get this while i can earn it easely while playing my favourite game? Please, reconsider.
     
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    We did not say you received the 8 coins from an ice mage, simply that you were talking to them about buying your cape back, the friend you mentioned also has an ice mage. The point you're making about that purchase is irrelevant to the 8B coins you received at a date already provided to you. Like you were already told, the person you received the 8B coins from was a known RWTer who has sold to multiple people which we have banned as well, Tim already made it clear enough for you that around this date and time you only refer to a cape you bought back which doesn't explain the coins. Unfortunately your appeal has been denied and your ban for real world trade will remain.
     
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