Problems that players faced in MapleRoyals

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    Recently, I saw a comment by a player regarding the issues with MapleRoyals
    Just wanna discuss about it to see if we can reach a better solution or workaround

    also the fact that hp washing exists in the server which is the absolute dumbest thing in this game, imagine telling a new player that you need to buy int gear until lvl 120 in order to play the game, or that the best way to make money in this game is to create a bishop or a mage as their first char, no exceptions

    or the fact that leeching is the fastest way to level. if you just think about it for a second, literally sitting on a rope and doing nothing is more beneficial to your character than grinding yourself?

    hackers are still rampant in this game, royals anticheat is non-existent, there are flying people in henesys and not getting banned and the only reason they do is because people report it

    royals touts itself as being nostalgic but there is literally nothing nostalgic about anything in the above and it saddens me because u guys have a lot of potential to be good as the most popular server

    Categories of what he posted
    1) HP washing
    2) Leeching
    3) Hackers
    4) Nostalgic

    1) From how I see it, HP washing is an issue left by Nexon. There are many ways to "solve" this issue and I really like the admin's approach by adding more HP via quest or items.

    I don't really believe in disabling the mechanic of HP washing nor nerfing the boss damage directly just to meet the goal.

    Cleric main feature is "Heal", so the job will surely save more meso just for potion fees alone. (will talk about selling leech if someone ask)

    2) I don't really have issues with leeching, and it also kinda links to HP washing (for pure int rogue and archers mainly).

    Leeching is also not really the fastest way to level all the time, I would say it's really fast for certain places such as Ulu or Petri but not for other locations such as Bubblings, Wraiths, or Ghost Ship 2. Players would level the fastest if they have good equipment to deal huge damage and also the Holy Symbol.

    3) I don't see any issues with hackers since they all wanna come to the most popular server, not really possible to 100% block off hackers. All games would have some hackers cause they spend all their time and effort in working on latest version exploits.

    4) This part is kinda tricky since all of us have different definitions of what's Nostalgic

    The issue of HP washing, leeching and hackers does exist at v62 / v83, beside these - Royals is pretty nostalgic to me in terms of Before Big Bang.
     
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    1). HP washing isn’t mandatory. Go with HB then. You do not have to wash. If you want to run with base HP you can. It is a luxury to not need HB. It is not mandatory. If thats really the case make an HB mule. BlackCats HT try to make it even easier for people who need HB to boss with.
    2). Leeching is not faster than grinding/pqing until at least level 85. People leech because they’re either
    a). Full int
    b). Lazy
    You’re a CPQ player. Do you think 2 hours of platoon chronos is anywhere near as much exp as 2Hrs of CPQ?
    Even after 85. For many classes there are potentially faster forms of exp likes Himes,BF, WS party, Jr. Newts sniping, Mist Training, etc.
    3). GMs try their best. If they had a simple function to remove all hacks they would.
    4). Too my knowledge: You play island and CPQ. You aren’t playing at least 75% of the game in my opinion. I personally have a great nostalgic time on this server.
    I Zakum like I did when I was 13. I played ToT for the first three months on Royals. I did LPQ/OPQ/CPQ/LMPQ/CWKPQ/Dojo/you get the point. Korea Folk Town questing which gives great exp. I rode the shitty orbis boat, the Ludi elevator, got scammed fame in the FM, etc. Heck I even HP washed in pre-BB in GMS with Nexon cash. Theres at least 3 threads about how this server isn’t nostalgic every 3-6months. Nostalgia is subjective.
     
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    Not me who made the complain...

    As islander and office boy, the HP washing doesn't affect me
     
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    My bad. I respect Islanders/Iron memes.
    They play the game h o w t h e y w a n t

    People are too swept up in the meta and compare themselves to people who have been around for 2yrs+

    People should just have fun with the game. Everyone started as a noob (even some RWTers ~imboss).
     
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    The reason I made this post is for players feedbacks on how they feel on the issue

    I am not bothered by the HP washing issue regardless of it staying or removed

    FYI: I chose to play only island and CPQ is because I have tried all jobs at actual server, up till Kinesis. I feel a bit sad when you mentioned I missed 75% of the gameplay
     
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    Actual server is not nostalgic though haha.
    I assume most population here played GMS though.
    I am sorry.

    I did not want to be mean about it. But I thought it was you saying the server is not nostalgic.
    If an islander came to forums to complain game is unfun and unnostalgic I would get a little annoyed ~f8
     
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    Yea, players can choose to play at their own pace
    Regardless of making the Bishop level 130 in a month or a year, still our character(s)

    I feel most players now, especially newbies are influenced by peer pressure for the 'best' damage / HP
    They need to chill abit instead of keep rushing for level just to go bossing
     
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    New players discrediting the efforts that many players have already put in.

    That's the best 1 liner summary of their thousand-word rant.
     
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    It's all relative anyway.
     
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    The first two points he makes are valid, for a new player it's stupid.
    When I first started, I made a bucc, didn't wash at all, got to 135 & realized I couldn't do much of the content since I died in 1-2 hits. So I made a bishop, got mesos by afk farming with summons to afford enough money to HP wash my second bucc so that I could start actually doing end game content.
    All in all, took months before I could really play the game in the way that 98% of the server does.

    So yes, you absolutely need to start your first character as a bishop, because that first character you make is going to be abandoned otherwise, and then using the bishop you have to make enough money to HP wash your intended character, and then leech them from 10-135 because there's no way your 240 base int character is going to be training itself. It's sad, but that's how you have to play the game, anyone saying "You can play however you like" is fooling themselves, because it's absolutely not true.

    About hackers though, it's a stupid point, every game has hackers, & while I agree Royal's tagline of being "Nostalgic" has kinda run its course, since this game isn't very nostalgic after the first week or so, it's not a valid reason to complain.
     
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    This is entirely incorrect and just further proves the other comments to be true. You've deluded yourself into believing you have to play a certain way. Your bucc at 135 could participate in nearly every boss/mob/pq made for that level range without washing.
     
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    It can do Zakum and Krex. Now onto the list of things it can't/wouldn't have been able to do.

    CWKPQ melee bosses, Horn tail, Bodyguards/Female Boss, Toad, Shao, Big Foot, Pianus, Black Crow, Kacchuu Musha, Pink Bean when it's implemented.

    Yeah, sorry, but no. Continuing that character I would have needed to be a decent bit higher leveled than most of the bosses, and some of them I flat out would not have been able to do. Keeping in mind this is a bucc, meaning it gets the most HP right behind warriors, washing is an absolute requirement to succeed in this server.
     
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    I said bosses made for your level range (135). A lot of those you listed are far higher leveled than 135. Those in your level range can absolutely be survived with your base HP (and HB). No washing needed.
     
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    So are you agreeing that I wouldn't have been able to do end game content with that character?
     
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    No. You are wrong and this is not a matter of opinion. Go look it up for yourself, an unwashed 135 bucc can survive almost every single boss intended for a level 135 melee character. I have already done so, hence why I am informing you of this fact.
     
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    No duh, I agreed with you that it can survive Krex & Zakum. But there's no point in continuing the character since it ends up not being able to do any end game content after that.
     
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    HP washing seems to always be a hot topic. What happens if they release pink bean ~f18?? A content in the original maplestory whereby deaths are a norm and wheel of fortune is the norm ~f10 yikes
     
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    I suggest you go look up the numbers. That is inaccurate. You may be mistaking unable to survive without washing for unable to survive without HB. You can 100% survive the mass majority of bosses with HB aka without washing.
     
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    Bodyguards/Female Boss, Toad, Big Foot, Black Crow, Kacchuu Musha, Pink Bean when it's implemented are all bosses an unwashed bucc (Again, highest hp after warriors, this conversation goes completely different for NLs, sairs, & bowman) cannot do unless you're vastly over leveled with every item you can get giving you hp. Not every party has HB, and you not having HB makes you a liability. If you're trying to argue that everyone has HB in every circumstance, then nobody would wash to 30k because it'd be a waste of money, everyone would stop at 18750.

    Trying to argue that everyone has HB in their party is misrepresenting the argument.
     
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    according to the nostalgia is subjective, not many people remember that the most magical of this game was that we did not know it , we had to explore the maps, we all fucked our first characters, but as it was so difficult to raise the level, we just left them like that, and (in my case) listening to the music for the first time was a delight, who try to play in a 100% nostalgic way this ... you would have to erase your memory and everyone's memory in order to do it ....
     
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