Server w/o Vote2Win?

This might be an unpopular opinion, but the current vote2win state of the game kinda ruins the satisfaction of developing and progressing my characters. I feel like I'd be wasting my time farming and grinding if I can just save up NX, sell AP resets, and buy pro items and leech. x isn't a vote2win server and leveling and farming feels great since I know I obtained everything through hard work and dedication. x just doesn't feel nostalgic to me because they don't have Ariant PQ or Carnival PQ and I wasn't too high of a level in GMS. I've been playing Royals for nearly 5 years, but I've kinda lost all my motivation to progress my characters. Thoughts?

Edit: My highest levels are 82 and 74, so it's not necessarily that I'm burnt out from the game.

 

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I see where you're coming from for sure, but what about a player like me who could have voted every day for 5 years with a lv82 main? I could be more funded than a lv200 Bishop that started a year ago without even playing.

If I voted every day for 5 years, I'd get 8,000 NX for 1,825 days, which means I'd collect 14,600,000 NX, or 4,709 AP resets. I could have had 70.6B on a lv82 Hermit. That's almost like endgame. I'd be able to buy the godliest gear without doing anything but clicking a Vote button once a day.

It kills the satisfaction of the game for me even though this server has the best old school content.

 

Ermm, i never understood the term "vote2win" becsuse is something we ALL can do "pay2win" is an actual problem because not everyone has money, in gms if u dont want to pay, u cant be competitive, if everyone has the sames chances its not something bad. And pall u voted for 5 years 5 FRIKIN YEARS obviosly compared to that merchin and grindin seems small, but in my "1 year" experience i got more money from playing than voting....

 

Correct. You could have voted, but you didn't. Your own fault.

"In 5 years time i'll buy a car"

*Doesn't save a single euro/dollar*

"I can't afford this and that, i could've owned this and that by now!!11!!1!!!"

Apart from that analogy, every single person has exactly 1 vote every 24 hours. So that's fair. Not to mention this server survives not only from it's nostalgic character but gives everybody a fair chance.

You said that you'd be more funded than a lvl 200 Bishop right off the start. Sure if you put in the effort, in your case voting over 5 years, compared to the 1 year of voting and playtime of the bishop. Sure you'd be more funded most likely. But you didn't do so. Now why again do you want to punish the bishop player who did not only vote but actually play the game for fun and progressed naturally over time.

Just so you can catch up?

 

I actually like voting as a sort of fixed basic income, because it allows new players to afford pots / basic gear in the first week - month period while making a continuously reduced difference for older players. I'm all for mechanics that make it easier for new players to ease themselves into the game.

 

I think you're missing my point. I'm not mad that I didn't vote every day for 5 years, so I'm not sure why you think that. I've actually voted for hundreds of days, but that's not what I have a problem with. I could spend days farming and grinding to be able to afford a nice work glove, but the fact that someone else could earn the same item without even playing the game just ruins the incentive to play for me.

 

Allright i understand.

So what hindered you from voting 5 years back in time AND playing the game for the last year?

You'd still have more budget than the person only voting 5 years and not playing the game actively / at all.


You both have 5 years of accumulated NX.

You have the edge since you played the game.

 

Way I look at it- it encourages and promotes playing and supporting the server without actually costing anything.

vote2win > pay2win imo

Would it be nice if voting was never a thing? Probably but there has to be some sort of metric to rank servers and otherwise encourage people to votes- better than 1 vote = 1 level or something wakcy ya know?

 

I like that it's a bit easier to start as a new player as well, but why not just have an NPC that gives new players free white and blue potions in that case?

Sure, I'd have more budget if I farmed and voted, but how much of a budget do I really need? Most godly items in the free market are less than 1B. I don't really need to vote for 5 years, much less 1 year, to be very funded.

 

I surrender to your logic

 

Why not just make cash shop items expire after 90 days? Disabling the trading of AP resets and significantly nerfing gachapon would pretty much rid the game of its vote2win nature. Another server already does this, but it's still not as good of a server as this one cause of the lack of content and its EXP rate.

 

You're also missing the part where gtop has been (at least for me) the traditional place to find a private server whenever I feel nostalgic about maplestory. And in order to maintain a playerbase, you want to continuously attract new players right? In order to do that from gtop (does royals even advertise elsewhere other than word of mouth?) you need to encourage a large number of people to vote for your server. And to get your playerbase to spend their time voting on gtop, you need to incentivize them with a reward.

So this originates from practicality (even back in 2008 on Rydah and such you voted on gtop for nx), but it is good for new players. Are old players going to vote on gtop for 100 white pots?

 

I didn't say new players should have to vote for potions. I agree that potions aren't the biggest incentive for voting (even though it's a necessity at early levels). I said why not have an NPC in the FM that gives 300 white potions and 300 blue potions a day? There's another server that wasn't vote2win and it was #2 for a while so I don't think it's unfeasible to maintain a playerbase without being vote2win.

I feel as if I'm stuck between 2 servers that both have some of my favorite aspects but theres no middle ground between them.

 

Jeez...If someone is dedicated enough to the server to vote every single day for 5 damn years, with alarms or whatever reminder system and successfully resist the temptation to use up that saved nx via gachapon on the way, I think that person deserves to have 70b in one go no matter the level of the character.

I struggle to even vote every day because I'm lazy to set alarms that need to be shifted by a few minutes every day. It actually takes a lot of effort to be that consistent.
I for one, have not encountered a single person who didn't forget to vote every single day.

 

In his defense, I've made probably around 90% of my mesos via NX & selling AP resets, & after around 1.5 years, have a pretty decent all around character, with a total worth of around 15-25b.

So I understand his complaint about how effective it is, but I just look at it as "I don't need to sell leech or afk farm to make mesos".

 

First things first, hopefully you understand by now that vote-to-win isn't a thing. Pay-to-win is a criticism based off the fact that not everyone *can* pay the same amount to play a game. Voting is restricted to once per day and is free. The only way to even slightly exploit this is to create a bot to vote consistently, but captchas deter most devs as there's a fair deal of challenge in automating captcha-solving. Far from impossible, but not worth it for 99.99% of people.

Then, ignoring whatever awful math got you to the assumption that voting is more profitable than playing, your whole critique is based around **playing the game** as work. It's not a job, it's a video game. If you don't enjoy playing, then you probably shouldn't be here.


Also, you gain 2.5 AP Resets in raw NX for voting each day. That's ~37.5m. Any 4th job mage can make that several times over in an hour.


edit: also can we get a server without grind2win -_-' so lame that people who play the game more can afford better stuff!!! admin other servers dont make me grind why this one??

 

You can still obtain everything through hard work and dedication. You don’t have to use nx to get apr or gacha, if you feel those things invalidate hard work.

 

8k Nx per day is like 40m at best, and i can make at less 80m/hr selling leech? How is that vote 2 win?
But than again, you have a lv82 char after "5 years" of playing