Closed 6luk 4dex alch ring

freshly scrolled~

Bid increments of 500m+
s/b 5.5b
a/w 7b

C/O 6b via dm

 

a/w.

 

May I kindly ask how this ring ended up in the hands of someone completely different, when my friend here a/w'd it at 8:07 pm

 

As I told him after I saw his post to a/w I closed thread and maybe 30mins later someone pm'd me in game about the ring saying something about a/w so I thought it was him and I traded it and then almost 2 hours later your friend DM'd me on forums saying he was banned and won't be able to trade until he's unbanned 2 days later. He doesn't have his IGN on his forum account so I had no idea lmao. Sure, i'll be more careful and ask for IGN or forum name next time but hop off my back rofl ultimately I choose who I sell my items too. This was an honest mistake and I do apologize.

Here, look at the screenshots he DM'd me about his ban situation nearly 2hours after he posted A/W and like I said someone PM'd me in game about ring not more than 30mins after me closing thread asking about a/w so I ASSUMED it was the same person

 

People apparently deceiving the seller to buy an item someone else A/W. Bleh.

 

I still know the IGN of the guy that PM'd me in game... revealing it would probably not make this situation any better so I'm gonna keep it to myself and your buddy since he deserved to know.

 

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/qui...-wgs-19int-robe-etc.133162/page-3#post-768080

Happened to me before, I’m sorry for your loss @trunghieu94

 

in case anyone really cares i also a/w this ring via in-game pm before @trunghieu94. the seller has his timeline of events confused probably because he felt attacked. no deceiving of any sorts occurred. pictured below is my history and i pmd said seller shortly after

 

I'm only asking for some honesty here, and would genuinely like to skip past the bs. I don't know what this screenshot proves other than the fact that you visited the selling thread at 7:40pm. but anyhow, even the seller himself acknowledges that "someone" pmd him 30 minutes AFTER the a/w.

Lets be real here, you even liked @trunghieu94 's post a minute after he posted it. Meaning you yourself already knew it was a/w'd, yet you go out of your way, most likely under the fake guise of being @trunghieu94 , and snag the ring, as well as confusing the seller himself altogether. and Wenhao, sorry for sounding like I'm attacking you, but all I really needed/wanted was the truth of the matter which you clearly stated yourself that this certain individual pm'd you 30 minutes after the bid had already ended. Thank you for that. I'm sure you were also confused, and I don't blame you for being mislead because of someone else's greedy intentions to merch off the ring 1b and 500 mil higher.

Moving onto some solid proof, here's the screenshot of you liking @trunghieu94 's post exactly a minute after @ 8:08 pm.



This is about 8:18 pm where you keep asking for a p/c on the ring, I'd also imagine about 15 or so minutes later, would be around the time you pm the seller.





This continues on later into the night.





Here's the clear intent of you trying to merch it for 1.5bil more. More like "ya right, I snagged that ring under your friend to sell it for 1.5b more you dummy" is the vibe I was getting.




This is honestly just sad, and I'm going to have to say a lot of people were pretty disappointed at what you did, as it was quite the dirty move to pull. But hey, props to you man, you made as much as I did in about 10 hrs of leech I did yesterday. It just kinda sucks the ring ended up being used solely for merching purposes, and couldn't go to any other greater use.

I'd like to also call out @trunghieu94 for being a bro, and trying to get it through my thick skull that this ring was definitely worthwhile, and even a/wing it on my behalf, when he was even banned. I'm sorry I failed you in a way I, as I should have been more keen and diligent, and aware of the snakes that unfortunately still remain here.

 

The screenshot proves I had known about the ring before trung posted his a/w and that I COULD HAVE (read: did) messaged the seller about it. Therefore reasonable doubt is created as there is a timeframe between 7:40pm est to 8:07pm est that is unaccounted for where I'm sure you could find mutual friends that would vouch for me asking about the ring price.

I was able to like his comment instantly because I had the thread watched due to my interest in it. Whilst I was price checking it I remembered I sold a 3 dex 6 luk for 7.5b (a/w) so I figured 7b would be a steal, hence why I a/w it myself. Those are some heavy accusations you're throwing and If you would like a GM to corroborate my messages with the seller please do so. It went along the lines of "a/w", "ok", "chX fm."

Solid proof lol, this is mere conjecture as you still do not have evidence that I a) impersonated trung and deceived the seller or b) a time at which I bought this ring. Its a shame you had to include certain messages in your ss that help paint your side of the story, its almost as if you'd rather attack the person than the facts at hand.

You need to reevaluate whether you are upset at yourself for not being able to get the ring. thus lashing out and making wild accusations or upset at me for wanting to merch it. Once you straighten yourself out I think you'll be able to see the bigger picture here that there is nothing wrong with merching items as currency is the most important commodity. Of course I'm looking to generate income through various methods, and in this case merching is possible because I have the means to support it. If you want to attack each and every mercher out there, go ahead but as it stands based on your history you have NO problems against them so I have reason to believe this is just a personal attack with no supporting evidence.

As for the seller's recollection of events, he states that I pm'd him 30min or so after trung's post (8:07 est), and in your first SS you state the time is 8:18pm est. I can tell you I already have the ring at this point (you can go confirm this) and was asking for other opinions on the p/c. This clearly contradicts what the seller has stated so how can we use his timeline as a basis?

If you want to talk about vibes its clear throughout your whole post you've had this passive aggressive tone as well as a personal attachment to this ring. So far from everything you've said it seems you've created a scapegoat for your frustration. I hoped that my previous comment would clear the air and considering you've known me for quite some time here, I'd thought youd know better. Cheers its not that deep.

 

This personally irks me. I'm so tired of self-centered people who blatantly lie and gaslight people to save face.

You lied.

Because the seller himself stated it was a mistake to sell it to you and apologized to the person who actually A/W the item.

The seller's recollection of how much time passed from the actual A/W to when you PMed him is irrelevant because:

The point is that the seller recollects and recognizes that you did NOT tell him you A/W the item before trunghieu94 and thus should have sold it to him, not you.

You're just trying to undermine the seller's credibility to defend your obvious lie that you A/W it first. Lol.

Hope your 1.5b merch was worth your reputation in the eyes of the people talking about you now.

 

Whats the argument here? Are we determining who the buyer should've sold the item to or if I stole the item under someone's nose. If its the latter, I've already done my part to defend myself which was already unnecessary considering no evidence was given for any wrongdoing. If we're talking about the former then the onus should be put on the seller. Theoretically if he knew someone had offered on the forums and someone also offers the same thing in game, sure one could assume its the same person but is it not the sellers responsibility to double check? Now you say the seller recognizes this and made the mistake of selling it to the "wrong" person. And as the buyer if I was NOT made aware of this how can I be put in the spotlight for "stealing" another person's item?

 

Quite frankly, I don't think a GM would have the time to corroborate the story, and I don't think it will be quite likely in your favor as I recall you mentioning "yeah it's over" when I inquired if the ring was already a/wd. Mind you, I already knew that the ring had been a/w'd during the time you were talking on and on about the 4 dex 6 luk ring, and it was quite strange, the interest you still had in it despite it already being already won much before. I had a strange sense it had to have been you when it came to my knowledge that someone else had already bought the ring despite it already being a/w'd

are you saying you have an auto enabled bot that allows you to like peoples comments that a/w'd, a minute after it's posted?

I have no problem with what you want to do with the ring, whether you want to merch it or not is none of my business, what upsets me is the fact that you seemingly bought the ring right under Trunghieu's a/w, despite you yourself knowing that it was already a/w'd. That's the only thing that doesn't sit well with me here. I'm going off the basis on what the seller said, which is that he said the ring was sold via pm 30 minutes after the ring was a/wd by trunghieu. You just simply can't get past the fact that you liked, and acknowledged trunghieu's a/w, yet you go ahead and pm the seller that you would buy it for 7bil anyways a while later.

I can honestly say, I have nothing against personally. Yes, I've known you for quite a considerable amount of time, bossing with you, and having fun in the game even up to the point of lending my own gears. We've had our good moments for sure, however, the fact that you'd pull something like this caught me off guard, and no matter how I look at it, I can't get past the plain truth of what really happened here. I'd really appreciate it for you to be the better man and just admit what you did instead of making excuses.

 

So let me get this straight. Someone is banned from playing this game... They bid on an item that they can't buy for a couple of days, due to said ban (would love to know what the ban is for by the way if someone could link the banana apple). Someone else who can buy the item offers to buy it for the price the seller is asking for. The trade is made.

Am I meant to be on the side of the guy who's banned from playing?

Or the guy who bought an item for the price the seller was asking?

Genuine question, not trying to stir anything. Thanks~

 

Locking thread since it's no longer about selling the item in question any more.