hello, a lot of people in the replies said they want the game to be nostalgic. yet they support multi-client. Can someone explain please because i am so confused. Nostalgic means that it promotes party play, killing monsters together as a party, (with group of people). Multi-client is the opposite of Nostaglgic. Take a look at this video as an example: The player is multi-client and Solo'ed the HT all by himself. What is the difference between this and the current real maple story? No differecne. Might as well change this server from version 62 -> 200. and everyone solo bosses.
That video represents 1 out of a few hundred players who won't bother doing that. Sure it is a possibility, but it's not practical. It takes too much effort, time, risk to accomplish that. So I believe we can rule out a gameplay practically no one follows. The population of royals should really put into context as well. Context. Original maplestory had players probably in the ten thousands range online at a single time. I'm very sure if we compare to a single world like Scania or Aquila at any one time, they surely have more than our pathetically small 1300 peak this year. The ratio is not to our favour. Likewise, setting up a party to go for bosses is not as easy as it was 10 years ago. It made sense then, but not now.
So I get that you guys want to promote party play, but why achieve that by removing something from the game? Yes, if muling in bosses is removed, people will have to work together more, but aren't you essentially forcing people to cooperate at that point? I don't think that would be the correct approach to this situation. In addition, have you considered how this change would affect the people who actually want to play solo? As shown in @Carney's video and elsewhere on the forum, soloing bosses like zak, krex, ht is a perfectly valid way to play this game. It should not be the role of the game to tell players what they can't do. (and also there is no comparison between royals ht and current gms ht, the power creep has made gms ht the royals equivalent of mano or something, if you look at the real endgame gms bosses you will see people still fighting in parties)
Multi-client is created because of very low population when Royals first launched . it was impossible to find parties. I have been through it all with royals. They had to change the Ludi pq enter requirement of 6 player(normal) -> 3 because it was hard to find parties. When the server population became stable and started increasing, they changed it back from 3 -> 6. if they remove multi-client, they are not "removing something from the game". they are just changing back to how the original server works. From what i see & and the video i showed in previous comment. people are currently shifting their jobs to Night lord with all kinds of mules (multi-client and solo bosses. if it keeps progressing like this, the whole server will be Night Lords. Now is the best time to do something about "promoting party play". it does not have to be removing multi-client but something must be done. As you all don't know about this. a "nerfed Pink bean" is coming to Royals this year(2019). it is not too late to find solutions to promote party play right now to take down the pink bean. Or you want to Night Lord with mules to kill pink bean? @Kai @Evan or any GM can give us feedback on this Promote party play issue. it would be great.
No, you aren't forcing anyone to do anything. This does however, forces the increase of value for all classes being played. I agree, solo play is perfectly fine; if one seeks to solo kill bosses solely for the purpose to reap full benefits, there are ways to achieve that whether it be using VMware or a second computer just how you would do it back in the good old days. This should be aloud. It should NOT be an easy and simple task to access greed (lets be honest here). Those who would want to solo HT or Zak are very slim compared to doing it with a party. The majority would choose the latter.
People who are talking about pArTy pLaY need to start a new thread. This discussion here is about buffing archers and ya’ll derailing big time. I’m glad we agree archers don’t need to be buffed. LF mod to stop this pointless thing
Indeed, the title does suggest that, but if you read the OP, the topic also involves party play. EDIT: No need to throw jabs with memes, if you can't handle the discussion, see yourself out please. We're keeping this discussion civil.
What are you talking about? It's in his post...which also sparked in the comments before I even posted here.
pointless? such a sad mentality....... The'buff' mentioned by the thread creator, aint really a buff, it is a cry for balance. the thread autor said this several times, its about SE mules. yikes.
Hello, the archer buff discussion have generated a lot of solutions with replies from other people. promoting party play is one of the alternative option to buff archers. It would be nice to keep it civil. i can change the thread as you wish. Edit: i changed the title by the way
To the party play advocates, genuine question, are you guys having trouble joining parties? Every CWKPQ Zak HT Scarga run I joined involves other people in my party. I don’t do them solo. Is that party play? Edit: @Power but the meme is the title of the discussion now. Maybe you can show yourself out if you don’t like it.
I won't recommend tagging GMs for forum posts, they will chip in if they wanna And when you want opinions from GMs, do you want their view as a player or as a staff?
No trouble finding party, in Fact Archers is the easiest to find party (people will beg you to join for your SE). Night Lord is very hard to find parties because large amounts of NL. a stranger party will require a range of 6k+ or something to join. of course when you run with friends, damage does not matter, it is all about fun. I have no problem finding parties, but seeing all my archer families abandoning us is sad for me. thank you for the discussions We need more people to see this view, a lot of archers look down on themselves and say they are useless. but they are actually very useful. Archers are actually better than Night Lords in a boss run. people only see the "high dmg lines from Night Lord, but they have no idea how much it cost to fund them. Archers is very relaxing and has same objective when completing a boss run: even though the damage not be as good, they just want your SE. at the end of the day I make the same mesos as Night Lord in boss runs without effort. Archers is actually better as you are in a higher status than other class (everyone wants you). Any other suggestions on how to promote party play? I have no problem , but i just want to see my archer families healthy again
I'm not sure what you have against me, I apologise for any form of offense. I am merely expressing a solution to balance the server and progress from an NL-centric meta. You have yet to propose an argument against my solution that would negatively impact the server. The argument for books is just an opinion. People will do runs without mules regardless.
Waitamin wasn't this what I was suggesting in my thread couple week back... Subtracting the memes https://royals.ms/forum/threads/the-six-man-party-syndrome.138678/
That's not what this version of MapleStory is about though. The "NL centric meta" is a core aspect of this version of the game. Our hierarchy isn't meant to be fair and balanced the way other versions in the future were/are. There are meant to be classes which are more sought after, some that are better for farming, some that are better for bossing, some that bring more party skills, some that bring more dps, some that are in between, some that are inferior overall, superior overall, so on and so forth. It's just how this game was structured in our advertised version.
I made some motivation posters for current and aspiring archers out there, this is to help build up their confidence and self-esteem. :3
I often used my BM as a mule in krex/shaolin etc and quit playing the character The reason I quit was because it's lvl 200 though, and not washed much. The Bm class itself is actually pretty fun and isn't entirely weak either as I could often white bosses like Zak or krex If anything I'd say the problem with the class is that's it's too squishy, with both low HP and mediocre avoiding As for Ht, bringing an SE mule there is actually very troublesome. I tried doing it before and it's too annoying having to go and rebuff every time you get dispelled. Not to mention having to leave/rejoin the party every time. Also by bringing a mule you lose an attacker, making the run longer. It's much better to bring a bishop mule instead. As a bishop you don't need to constantly rebuff, you can make your char as a sed mule and heal yourself (making sed easier) and you also don't lose much damage since bishops usually don't attack much (unless they are strong and spam gen the whole run)
