I am currently lv 92 on my outlaw and I am full dex. I am using a 91 attack maple pyrope shooter, 10 dex cape, 30 dex bathrobe, 10 atk wg, and 10 dex earing and shoes. I am pretty much broke and incapable of buying a concerto, str overall, or anything of the like. I am at the point where I should be putting full STR and switching all my equipment out for a concerto. My question is, how much damage will I be losing if I just decide to put this off for later? I mean say I can somehow afford a 100 atk concerto or something. There is no way 10 weapon attack is better than 110 dex right? I have tried taking 100 dex off my character and 10 weapon attack off with my current equips, and the dex is around twice as valueble. I dont want to have to waste APRs later on trying to change my build... but I think maybe later in fourth job I could start putting in str. I'm not really sure what to do going forward. Any advice is appreciated.
The optimal way to go I'd say is to put just enough Str into base so that you can wear a concerto/dragon rev at an earlier level. Of course, you mentioned you don't want to waste apr but you'll need to be relatively funded to be able to equip those guns with Strless base. Str is sort of less common than dex considering scrolls, but once you have a good overall, egged htp and rings, etc, you can do it. Later in the game, APRs won't be a waste really since it becomes a low but significant cost to making up for your current gains.
No no that is HORRIBLE advice. You're saying put 110 base str to equip concerto? I already stated that 110 dex is MORE damage than 10 weapon attack. I'm asking if someone has done the math and knows at what point a concerto will be stronger. 102 atk? 104 atk? 110 atk? rather than just give generic advice like that I'm asking for someone who has done the math on it and knows exactly how good of a concerto I need to make it worth switchig over, or if I'm better off just staying full dex. The advice you gave me would just make me do less damage AND waste more money on APR!
if you have a zhelm and htp, just add base str till you have 100 total str (concerto). You don't need to add 100 base str. If you want to save mesos on apr, get a budget 20-30str pirate overall. You shouldn't need too much extra base str by this point.
You're not understanding me then. I said just enough str. I'm assuming you have a zhelm and pendant yes? You only have to add until you have a total of 100-110 str. Is there anything else you need clarifying? Unless you have no zhelm or anything, I guess I can understand your concern?
You won't need to dedicate the full 110 ap into base str to begin with. With things like zak helm, decent scrolled overall etc you end up only needing to put a couple more base stats into it. Example: 15 Zhelm 3 Krex ring 20+ Overall 22 HTP 1 Halloween ring 1 Thanksgiving ring 3 Valentine's ring 5 Shiny nose from xmas event 2 clean spectrum goggle from cwkpq 2 medal 5 black belt Your concern at level 92 won't be to switch out to a concerto immediately. I rather you focus on gathering funds for an entry level concerto (100+ att) for when you start joining boss runs at lv135. Until then you can stay full dex with whatever you're using and just upgrade accordingly.
Yeah I have no zhelm could not finish the jump quest. I also have only 10 mil mesos. I spent 500m on my maple pyrope shooter. My question is how good of a concerto do you need to be stronger than a maple pyrope shooter with full dex? You guys are spitting common knowledge at me. 110 stat points is 110 stat points, it doesnt matter if its base or from gear. 50 base + 60 str from gear? I could just get + 60 dex from gear. Every piece of gear I use for STR I could have dex instead. So there is no point in arguing about this. Right now I have like + 80 dex from my equipment and a 91 atk maple pyrope shooter. I have done the math and if I have a 101 atk concerto I am far weaker than with the pyrope. So what atk concerto do I need? 110 atk? 120 atk? That is my question. Having GOOD dex gear with a GOOD pyrope is better than having BAD str gear with a BAD concerto. I guess I basically answered my own question. I was hoping a corsair could give me some better advice in terms of what direction I should go. Blindly following the "normal generic advice" will end up making me weaker. I know that much
It's better to gain STR from equipments instead cause Maple Warrior only buff BASE stats So there would be a difference between 110 BASE STR + 500 BASE DEX with 10 BASE STR + 600 BASE DEX if you take Maple Warrior into consideration
Sorry to say, I'm having trouble understanding what you're really asking for because you're dead set on things being within 2 conditions and being contradictory. The first being not funded, and the second asking for what weapon attack gun is at least good enough? Since you seem to understand how much 100 dex seems to give in terms to attack it seems like you can make that estimate for yourself, and here you are asking for it. Since you don't understand how base stat works, if you have more base dex, and get the extra Str from the equips, that I mentioned in my first post and that CerealnOats detailed more clearly, you will get a higher bonus from Maple Warior 20. That skill is dependent on your base stat, so later on you'd opt for an Overall that gives you Str instead, as a corsair. However, if you do end up becoming that funded you can propbably keep a dex overall potentially and acquire enough Str from equips like rings and pendants, etc. This is what most people on this server would suggest and makes the most sense later on. If I do finally understand, in your case you may as well stick to your current setup since you don't have a zhelm and pendant plus enough funding. Once you get more funding and the aforementioned equips, then you should follow this, understand? The fact is, changing to certain STR equipment will benefit you overall in the long run because of those reasons I mentioned above as well as being able to equip a higher attack gun with lower base STR.
Do elaborate how? Unless I failed basic math, (110*1.1 + 500*1.1 = 10*1.1 + 600*1.1)? The only consideration that comes into play is the reliance of mw to equip your gear
Hi Shnang, 110 STR + 10% = 121 500 DEX +10% = 550 total = 671 10 STR + 10% = 11 600 DEX + 10% = 660 total = 671 Although total stats are the same, the attack range would be different Spoiler: Formula I used for estimation General Formula MAX = (Primary Stat + Secondary Stat) * Weapon Attack / 100 Gun Primary: DEX * 3.6 Secondary: STR From AyumiLove https://ayumilovemaple.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/maplestory-formula-compilation/ Assuming the weapon is average clean, WA 74 Concerto (without any other WA items) Scenario 1 110 STR + 10% = 121 500 DEX +10% = 550 Calculation 1: [(550 * 3.6) + 121) * 74 / 100 Max Attack Range = about 1555 Scenario 2 10 STR + 10% = 11 600 DEX + 10% = 660 Calculation 1: [(660 * 3.6) + 11) * 74 / 100 Max Attack Range = 1766 Range would be higher by 211 If I used wrong formula to calculate the gun attack range, please correct me
In a vacuum this is correct, but you do seem to miss out that you need base strength to equip said Concerto, so this assumption is just not feasible. Unless we talk about pure dex this there's no point considering this scenario at all Consider a less extreme (simplified) scenario: Scenario A: 100 str*110% = 110 500 dex*110% = 550 Total raw base = 660 Adding a str based (10 str/40 dex) overall (50 net stat): Total stats: 120str, 590dex = 710 stats In comparision to Scenario B: 10str*110% = 11 590dex*110% = 649 Total raw base = 660 Add a dex based (40str/10dex) overall (50 net stat): Total stats: 51 str, 659 dex = 710 stats This is a simplified example, I hope you get what I mean. Technically scenario B is disqualified as the Corsair does not have enough strength to equip a concerto, But my point is to illustrate that the myth of adding secondary being, "bad", people should put emphasis on stat total. Notice how the net stats remain the same.
Hi Shnang, I get what you mean and I don't mean to state or hint adding secondary stats is being bad The reason I suggested for low STR & high DEX is that most players will wanna aim for the min-max damage (as high as possible) I acknowledge the mistake of not clarifying the STR needed to equip said Concerto Wanted to add in another scenario of estimating how much STR from each equipment, but feel will be off track and removed it The equipment stats listed by Cereal should be a good estimation for the thread owner to estimate how low his STR can be
I think as a sair having a DEX overall is actually better because it's easier and cheaper to scroll dex overalls due to cheaper scrolls and the 100% event scrolls (while STR only got 30/60), but it's up to you I guess The only problem with having high base STR and DEX gear is that you might be dependant on MW to wear gear which is annoying, and if you aim for 100 total STR without MW you'd lose 2-3 stats compared to the STR overall sair (but it can be countered by easily getting cheap DEX overalls with high stats)
