Money Making Discussion

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Should this be a guide or kept as a community thread?

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  1. Plenty
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    Another highly requested guide that got a good amount of points in my guide poll is a money making guide. I was thinking of either making this a community thread rather than a guide because I'm not aware of all methods of efficient money making and I'm not touching on merchanting. I'll make a poll on whether this should be a guide or a community thread much like the %/hour or damage range thread.

    I hope you can contribute to this thread/guide by letting people know your method of making money. Thanks!

    A very excellent point that @Narutard explains:
     
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    I feel like you should make a guide, and if anyone has anything to contribute they can add it in the comments.:)
     
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    Buy Low, Sell High.
     
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    I hate lowballers with a passion
     
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    Low is a very vague term and very perspective-based, I can say 9.9m is low and 10m is high.
    Would you take the 15scg for 10m if you saw it? Sure you would.

    Money Tip: Sell me your mudkip chair for lots of money
    Money Tip 2: Don't underestimate how much meso stacks up by selling equips you pick up.
     
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    Like I said, I'm not going to be touching upon merchanting because:
    1. I don't find it to be very efficient
    2. There's already a guide upon it
    3. It's too player to player reliant more so than other methods
    4. It's relatively straight forward
     
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    The second part of your post is exactly why I want to make it more like a community thing rather than a written article like a guide.
     
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    Lowballing isn't at all necessary in merchanting.

    I would say that I've been very successful at it, and outside of a handful of times people have put a shop up with obvious fresh gacha and just not known prices at all, both myself and the seller have been happy with the price of the item. It's more like "buy things that are on the low side of market value and sell them at or just above market value" than it is buy low sell high. It's also very much about tracking the trends in item prices. Bot dex 70% scrolls float between 7 and 10m depending on who's out there scrolling bottoms, so just be aware of when they're on the upswing. Same goes for a ton of other scrolls.

    Unfortunately to do that, you've got to be willing to put in the time to go through every store in every FM at least once, and preferably twice a day. You're both looking for deals on items to buy and later resell, AND looking at the prices things have SOLD FOR (not what they're listed for) so that you can get an idea of where to price your own items. Most people aren't willing to put that time in for the relatively slow returns of the merching process.

    Trying to buy a scrolled equip for 50% of its true value is not an efficient way to merch. You're not going to get the item, in 99% of cases, and so you're not going to make money. Even if you do miraculously get the item, the seller is not going to be happy, and they're not going to do business with you in the future.
     
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    This method could work if we had a larger number of active players and there was a hype going around. As of late, I can't think of one that is intruding m undergoing right now.
     
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    kill stuff. sell stuff.
     
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    This obviously goes without saying, but anything before Bishops would be posted here.
     
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    My advice to any new player is to forget PQing. I've had many people in my guild complain about being poor and I ask them how they trained up and all I get is "CPQ" or "LMPQ".

    I took the time out of my day to go farm for a bit when CPQ wasn't quite as lively as some peak hours of the day. Leprechauns are a goldmine for low-ish level moneymaking. Not only do they drop lucky charms, but they drop some pretty overpowered NPCable items for their level.

    When I trained, LMPQing wasn't even a thing. I was at FoG from 51-70 and easily made over 100m from all of the drops. I was able to afford a Zakum Helmet, half decent attack work glove, and basically a nice set of core equips without too much effort simply because I didn't spend 30-70 PQing. I'll never have any sympathy for those who complain about the price of helms.

    I was able to start unfunded and do pretty well for myself. I did some light washing and achieved 30,000 HP with HB on my first character by 15x(Warrior obviously) and never once felt as though I had to stop and struggle. PQing spoils you and leaves you high and dry during 3rd job. You're poor and leveling feels slugish in comparison to what it was. Level 72 is the breaking point for many, many people.
     
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    What would be the best location to farm leprechauns? Just wondering.
     
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    Creeping Evil, I believe is the map. Three leprechauns spawn in that map and only Headless Horseman does in regards to bosses.
     
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    Is this the map where each leprechaun is spawned on different platforms?
     
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    No, this is the flat map. 3 leprechauns, HH every so often, and phantom trees.
    Haunted Mansion > Bent Tree > Haunted Hill > Creeping Evil denoted by a picket sign. It's a hidden street.
     
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    In the bent tree map there is a sign that also goes to creeping evil. You dont have to go to haunted hill to face death.
     
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    The sign in bent tree goes to Hidden Evil.
     
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    Main difference being that hidden evil also spawns jr. wraiths and creeping evil does not.

    Side note, jr. wraiths drop 100% helm for DEX (which goes for 3m each). They aren't awful money makers.

    In general I second narutard's "dont pq" statement. I probably made 100-200m in my 4x at master chronos, ~5-10m per level in my 5x at ghost ship/FoG/other alternatives in that range, and even more at voodoos. Grinding is actually faster in the 4x levels unless you're a warrior or brawler who can give FW and score 1500+ points per pq solo. It's faster in the 6x as well unless you have an excellent and RELIABLE lmpq party.
     
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