shadowers as sed mule for ht

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    why do ppl make shadowers for sed mules if they already have 30k-blood-washed crash mule? cant they use it for crash and sed?
     
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    Because shadowers can be afked since they have shifter and much more avoid.
     
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    Meso guard reduces the damage you take from 1-1 skill (the one which your hp and mp is reduced to 1) by 50 percent, which is usually the sed killer skill, and along with what resum said, shifter which gives 40 % chance to dodge, makes shadower the ideal sed mule.
     
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    I have mixed feelings reading this..
    So this is how SE mules feel huh... mhm..
     
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    Having a Seduce Target like shadower, all you need to pay attention to is every 3min, or when dispel hits to rebuff Meso Guard. You basically and let it run around and not give to much attention due to its crazy survivability and evade from Mesos Guard & Shifter. Heal is not required almost all the time.

    Why shadower over crash mule?
    The main reason would be that crash mule can easily be 1/1-ed and then killed, and attention is actually needed.
    There are other factors such as When crash is needed while its being sed, it makes the run lose that much DPS, as well as from time to time the bishop actually needs to heal it. But meanwhile using a shadower, the bishop can continue actively dispel Head’s defense buff, clear spawns or even gene to dps efficiently.
     
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    so you can use smokescreen to change int gears when you're about to level up
     
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    Feels bad when warriors esp Pally (often touted for its ‘Defensive’ capabilities) can’t be compared to Shads in terms of tankiness..

    For a defensive skill Mesos Guard is wayyy too OP, 50% reduction and works even for 1/1. Then there’s Shadow Shifter that procs 40% of the time too and high avoid & i-frames (bstep) if you main it. Meanwhile power guard is 40% for physical only, and Achilles is only 15%.

    Personally think a buff to Achilles or Guardian wouldn’t hurt anyone, helps preserve the tanky warrior class dynamic but this prob belongs to the feedback section (and then left in the dust lol)
     
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    Back in the old source Power Guard use to block magic damage (1/1) like Meso Guard. Bringing that back would be a good idea in my opinion because you wouldn’t need to rely on RNG or a Bishop to constantly baby sit a hero/pally as a seduce target. This change ultimately gives hero/pally more flexibility/tankiness when being the main seduce target but still probably not as good as shadower. Whats sad is that a heavily washed night lord has better survivability as a seduce target than a hero/pally :X
     
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    Thanks for the answers.
    Still, if you bring crash and sed mule then anyway you have to watch them both and 1/1 isnt that a problem because you can just auto pot it right? And you must watch the shadower to not accidentally activated double seduce while crash mule has stance.
    The only reason I find here is the lose of DPS in case of seduce while crash is needed
     
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    you don't care about double seduce with a shadower mule and 1/1 during sed is what you are worried about
     
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    Thats the answer I was looking for. If talking about sed, I was wondering how do you act when tail is up? Hang on rope and hope for the best? Because theoretically you can get hit then seduce to tail
     
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    If ur bloodwashed on a shad enough. You can just tank tail and laugh it off.
    Meanwhile smokescreen & will are skills that can be used to totally evade this situations.
     
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    POWER GAURD TO BLOCK MAGIC DAMAGE @@@
     
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    SHADOW SHIFTER TO PALADIN :D
     
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    SHADOW PARTNER TO DRKS!
     
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    30k hp doesn't mean u won't die ;3
     

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