MapleRoyals' Terms & Conditions and the flaws in it

What? why do you bring up the U.S when i gave you Canadian law should i take up the law in Africa or Asia (i am aware they are not countries).

Racism is not allowed in the Us and please the whole internet "flame" and bullying and racism is a pretty new thing so it is not handled that easily.
If you think you can act any way you want go do it see how far in life that will get you.


You bring up the first thing you find that is irrelevant, you think that case would help you use offensive words here.
The whole reason i wasted my time was to make you understand that what you say is offensive and is not allowed here.

No it's not. That is why you are currently BANNED remember.

 

omg.
Taken straight from rule 23 of the T&C;
Engage in robot play (i.e., "botting") or any other behavior that allows you (or any character you are controlling) to automatically function or effect any action in a game with or without your presence; Punishment: 1st offence - 7 day ban, 2nd offence - permanent ban
Botting is still robot play. In case you forgot what you said, An illegitimate third party program is still robot play, because it still does the aforementioned above;
allows you (or any character you are controlling) to automatically function or effect any action in a game with or without your presence
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You will never win in this case, for if you train, you need to pay at least a minimal level of attention to the game.

 

The US laws and Canadian laws are very similar and in this particular case it's the same. I could go outside right now and explicitly talk to an audience about how how much I hate Muslims (which I obviously don't) and nothing would happen to me. Maybe a cop here and there will question why I'm doing this but ultimately I will not get in trouble unless I physically hurt a Muslim in the act. Cyber bullying has been around for a long time, the only reason you say it's new because it has only been recently brought to attention by the media.

The whole reason I made this thread is because I got banned. I'm questioning our Game Terms & Conditions because some of the rules here quite frankly, don't make sense. Our conversation is going nowhere, please stop derailing this thread.

 

I am surprised someone bought up self leeching. There's many people actually against self leeching, trust me. I am one of them and many of my friends thinks its a weak point of this server as well. Self leeching with a HS mule is indeed faster than using a macro because HS exp gives more than regular botting exp. People here pretty much always make a HS mule, throw their second character on the rope of skelegons and grind away for double experience. Anyways, that's all I wanted to leave out. There's far from "only one person" complaining about self leech.

 

And freedom of speech is allowed to be dictated by a site owner's own rules. As such, our rules state that you cant post certain things and so you have to follow them. Go read up on what freedom of speech REALLY means. It doesn't mean "I can say whatever the hell I want"

 

Botting by MapleRoyals standards is the same as robot which I personally do not agree with. Botting is an actual illegitimate third party program whereas robot play is a preferred style of play. In that example I mentioned earlier, had that person said something to the GM when asked if he was botting, he would have been clean, even though we know he was indeed using an object to cast a spell. He would have got got away due to lucky timing, not because he was not "botting". I know for a fact that many people hold down 1 single spell to train because that's how Maplestory works; each class will have 1 mobbing ability that you pretty much use 100% of the time so you can't blame people for doing this or rather you can't train any other way other than spamming the same skill.

And I will never win in this game because I need minimal level of attention to this game? Wrong because I'm living proof that you don't. I do CPQ, LMPQ and grind all the same way; watch something else while paying minimal attention to the game. How does that consider as botting?

I understand that, which is why I'm questioning why saying racial and homophobic slurs in all chat is bannable on this server. I'm going to say this one more time, purposely putting down someone using racial and homophobic terms in an attempt to deride others should be considered a bannable offence but casually using these phrases and terms should not. Everything said should also be taken in context, not just with what's on the paper. Freedom of speech does mean I can say whatever the hell I want, as long as nobody is physically getting hurt against their will in the process. Why is it that you can't get caught by the law for mentally offending someone by calling them a derogatory term? Because there is no physical evidence that you had inflicted any of that and the law recognizes that. People would be making stories up left and right if it was otherwise.

If you seriously do not want us to use racial or homophobic slurs, then why are they not censored in-game? The fact that we can freely say them and others can see it implies that you don't care about it. Suspending people without a warning (again, referring back to a lack of warning) is just silly.

 

With skills like Genesis, Blizzard and Meteor Shower all being able to hit an entire map, how does this not promote "robot play"? I'm genuinely surprised that people defend leeching but not robot play; they're essentially the same thing. What do you want leechers to do, run around and change platforms every other minute while casting the same spell over and over again that doesn't get affected by your character's position so all you're really doing is pretending to be active when really you're better off just standing in the same position and casting the same spell over and over again because you will be more efficient since you are in theory spending less time running around and devoting more time casting your spell meaning you're putting out more DPS?

I have nothing against leeching, but if robot play is an issue then why isn't leeching?

 

I can't...

 

I'm going to assume that your speech about leeching is all just a fever dream and that I'm eventually going to wake up from.

 

Honestly you're splitting hairs here to try and get your way. That's all I see. I see it as "I got banned for saying a word in all chat that's clearly against the rules. Even though the in game warning tips specifically state there are no warnings given, and it's quite obvious that you need to read the rules of a server before joining". You signed up to the server, you read the rules and agreed to them. If you didnt actually read them, then that's your own fault. Just like some people may throw the word 'retarded' around as if it's just a way of saying something sucks, somebody who actually lives with a disability or knows someone with one may take offense to the word. Just like some people may call something "gay" if it doesnt go their way, another person who actually may be gay can very easily, and justifiably, get offended. The n-- word in specific is a nasty word, no matter what reason you have for using it. The person who was autobanned over smega for saying the guy's IGN was at fault as well, because again- if he read the rules, he'd know that saying the N word is bannable because it's a racial slur. That person with the IGN was renamed to something less inappropriate.

Want an interesting read? Go ahead, read this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...mericans-want-N-word-die-kill-themselves.html
"If black Americans want the N-word to die, they will have to kill it themselves " It's an interesting article that shares a lot of this server's POV on why we disallow such words.

As for leeching vs botting, If you want to discuss the difference between botting and leeching, then by all means, go ahead and argue it all you want. However, the difference for our server and our rules is spelled out right in the rules themselves . Someone leeching you = you sitting there (and/or afking) while they help you gain exp. It was common in GMS, and thus it'll be common in here.
Botting is clearly defined in the rules as: any other behavior that allows you (or any character you are controlling) to automatically function or effect any action in a game with or without your presence.

That means that you sitting there holding your finger on the key and not replying to anyone who comes into your map can be seen as botting, because there's no logical way to tell the difference from a third pov. Someone who has a paperclip stuck in between their key vs someone just holding it down- they're both botting if you cant reply to a GM to prove you're actually there. That's the thing. If you're gonna be lazy and half-ass train without paying attention to what you're doing, then you need to be able to respond to a GM if it looks like you're botting. Whether you're using a paperclip, your finger, or a program to bot- you'll still get banned for it. Don't want to get mistakenly banned for botting just because you're zoning out? Keep your chat window open enough to look for thie white background text of a GM talking. We're not machines, we'll sit there and ask you if you're there, if you're afk, what are you doing, etc before warping you to town if you still fail to reply. If you continue to attack even after you've been warped, then for all purposes you're botting and thus will be banned. It's really pretty simple if you actually look at the rule instead of trying to split it apart piece by piece.

For now, I think this conversation has derailed way too far, and gotten out of hand. Just because you dont like the rules doesnt mean that they're unfair. Just because one person, you, may not be offended by the racial slurs doesnt mean someone else won't be. Dont push your luck.

 

Always these false statements, this is not true
"In Canada, advocating genocide[15] or inciting hatred[16] against any "identifiable group" is an indictable offence under the Criminal Code of Canada with maximum prison terms of two to fourteen years. An 'identifiable group' is defined as "any section of the public distinguished by colour, race, religion, ethnic origin or sexual orientation"

In USA that crime don't exist, in Europe, UK, and several Scandinavian countries this line is much stricter and no exception.

But instead of these laws that has no point the law we all has to abide by is the http://royals.ms/forum/threads/game-terms-conditions.353/
and it says what you do is wrong, beware of the ban hammer.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech#Canada

 

I think this conversation is over. The troll has been fed and will come back when it's hungry.