Closed Ban for harassment

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    Last thing you did:
    Why do you think you got banned?: probably because afking at BPQ and got in fight with Shiratsuyu, scumbag player who by others claimed to pretending to be a woman.
    Got kicked out of garbage guild for relooting maple leaf, thought it was fun because I saw someone else do it, tried it once. Got kicked from the guild with reasons "relooting maple leaf + shittalking a guild, admit the first one but not the second one, kicked even before being confronted or spoken to. Weak guildlleader taking actions based on story from one person without even confronting the person for a smaller thing even, lmao.
    Didn't shittalk the guild before kicked but i'd eventully leave the guild anyways I think it's really bad, only my opinion.
    Been ongoing for quite some time now people in that guild are even targeting me multiple times with summoning bags, (ty for NX) & defames. AFKing in balloon pq simply because i don't want to win if i'm matched with them.

    Ban message when attempting to log in: Banned 3 days for harassment
    What GM banned you (optional): unknown
     
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    Can you explain what you mean by relooting a Maple Leaf?
     
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    I saw someone else do it saying relooting maple leaf increase rare item rate or smth like that as for fun. I got the bug, which idk how to solve, when u cant loot on map and was left without any leaf I thought it was funny af and kept the, what I thought was a fun maybe growing trend before u eventuelly may would have fixed it.
    The moment I saw someone else taking it really bad by defames etc, I quit doing this and thought maybe everyone else didn't think it was hilarious, as I did.
     
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    Can you explain the bug in more detail? As far as I know you should only not be able to loot a Maple Leaf if you already have one in your inventory. Or are you saying that you are looting and dropping multiple Maple Leaves, causing the last remaining players to not be able to loot one for themselves?
     
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    Relooting, as drop and pick right back up yes, seen alot players do this at snowman two years ago in order to mess with afkers. Did not are.
    Uhh it's the general bug when u have to wait like 10-20 seconds to loot items I referred to
     
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    And when you say that you have been AFK'ing in Balloon PQ "simply because i don't want to win if i'm matched with them.", do you mean that if you are matched with a certain player you will purposely AFK, otherwise you don't AFK?
     
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    Certain playerS, did twice, thought about it and in future may only just log out in order to not ruin the game for a third neutral player.
    It's the best solution in my opinion or I pretend to be trying in bpq?
     
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    This 3 day ban was AFK'ing in Balloon PQ, and we initially deemed this as Objectionable Behaviour (Disruption) as it seemed like you were just continuing to AFK on multiple characters. However, you have since admitted that this was targeted only towards specific players, which falls under Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment).

    Therefore we have no choice but to change this ban to Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment), and due to this being your 3rd offence of Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment), it means your accounts have now been permanently banned.
     
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    I admit to have afked on purpose one time because matched with a player among a a certain larger group of people once. Not the specific player itself.
    Simply because I didn't want to play wgen matched among those players.
    The second time was due to taking out bread from oven.
    I admit afk muling generally in bpq, the gwnrally afk ballooning in bpq has not been targeted to certin specific players

    However i thought this was my second strike, first time for (profane language?), Not knowing what I did wrong even too.
     
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    We need some time to review your previous bans, and will get back to you with an answer soon.
     
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    Meanwhile do you still considering choosing not to play a game of bpq because matched with another player player in a certain group as harassment?

    If you could just answer the last question would save lots of time beaus in that cas I'm gone anyways
     
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    If you are causing a detriment to another player and purposefully doing so while targeting that player it would be considered harassment.
     
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    Please define what you mean by targeting, it's not like I was bpqing in order to get matched with someone among that group to afk and ruin. It was simply that I entered bpq when I was tired and when I got matched with that person I just didn't feel like I wanted to win, and chose to afk, nothing else.
    If that act for you is classified as harassment in a way where a ban issue is required then time for me and the staff is better spent somewhere else and you could just close the thread.
    Along with that I have confessed afk in ballooning, that would not be classified as harassment since it is not targeted to specific players.
     
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    This has been misunderstood.
     
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    We have looked at your ban history, and can confirm you have had the following bans:
    - Hate Speech [1st offence] - Misogynous behaviour in Cake Boss map
    - Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment) [1st offence] - Harassing another player

    This current ban was initially for the following offence:
    - Objectionable Behaviour (Disruption) [1st offence] - AFK'ing Balloon PQ on multiple characters by bypassing the multi-client checks in place

    In this thread you have admitted to 2 further offences:
    - Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment) [2nd offence] - AFK'ing in Balloon PQ when matched with specific players
    - Objectionable Behaviour (Disruption) [2nd offence] - Relooting Maple Leaves in Maple Hill causing other players to not be able to loot.

    Therefore we have now changed your ban from permanent to 17 days due to the above 3 offences.
     
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    Would you please answer the question if I get matched with a specific player, along with being tired and not wanting to win the game, really a combination of both parts, refusing to play a single game of bpq. Is it the act classified as harassment and really worth giving a ban for? Yes or No?
     
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    And also while we are at it is it banable to afk in cake event, you have previously told me playing cake from two computers is okay, the same sort of function is being used in cake as in bpq, why is the first one okay while the other isnt?
     
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    If you are tired, and don't want to attempt to win in BPQ, you should not be doing BPQ.

    You have admitted to purposefully AFK'ing in BPQ after being matched with a specific player or player(s). Therefore this is disruption of another individual, and so falls under Objectionable Behaviour (Harassment).

    Because AFK'ing in Cake Boss has little to no effect on others, whereas in BPQ it causes your team to lose.
     
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    As of both events having ups and downsides i explained to you and i have given you my reasons why I, which I still am, thinking afking in bpq in general has more positive effects of the community rather than negative.
    As I told before Im not the only one afking in bpq but I do see why I would get most reports when I only appear in henesys, bpq, cake, fm, showa sauna, hene armour shop, fasteest way from kerning-> orbis -> nlc -> omega sector
    Mostly playing during event timings and alot.
     
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    Then perhaps you should be discussing your thoughts and feelings about BPQ in your feedback post, as this is your ban appeal and you were given the verdict. :)
    Closing and locking this because there is nothing else left to discuss.
     
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