Account Sharing

Katsuruka:

Nothing against you Kat, just using this quote.

I have to say. When you're playing games, you usually do it with a friend or family member. Not allowing account sharing is just absurd and completely absurd.

Now I understand there are multiple reasons to not allow account sharing, so to remedy all those reasons, players who are account sharing should make this public when creating the account. (GMs perhaps you can add a quest that asks this when the first character of an account is created)

When players admit to account sharing, they agree they may no longer create reports of issues that are related to account sharing such as a report of hacked account. (Should be punished if they do not follow through and waste GMs time.)

EDIT: It seems many forum users are not fully reading posts and giving arguments that have been answered. Please make sure you fully read and understand posts before replying. Thanks! -Oldie

 

I agree that the rules on account sharing are too strict but i dont agree with your post.

I feel account sharing is having someone level you and i feel that is wrong and i agree it should be bannable.

Now i remember when i use to watch my bf play games when we first met 7 years ago and he would let me sit and try the game teach me some things for a few minutes, have me make sure he didnt die while he got a glass of coke lol all harmless.

When i first started playing maplestory i had no clue what to do, he would log onto my account from his house, equip my items that should be equipped,put my stats in sell my items that needed to be sold then i would get back on and he would explain to me what he did and why he did it and that this is what i need to do, it helped me alot and i learned very quickly, again harmless.

Now today he plays on the desktop and i am beside him on my laptop he just bought me a few weeks ago, we found this server when he bought me the laptop so we could play maple together again, never have we ever been on a server that had actually enforced the account sharing rule we were shocked when we found out and have stayed off eachothers accounts because we follow the rules, but the fact that if my boyfriend types to my friends on my laptop like one couple did we could be banned, or if he looks through my items or our guild we could be banned, that i find is way to much, its so harmless i feel like its my laptop its my account and if my boyfriend iv been with for 7 years wants to look over on my laptop and write something to my friend while im sitting there or getting a glass of water he should be allowed without being scared of getting us both banned.

Anyways my point is that my examples above are harmless, i do not think that situations like that should be bannable, but i do not believe in sharing accounts and leveling eachother and i am against your idea because you are saying that just that should be allowed.

Now im not saying ALL rules are too strict, just a few have a possiblity to be maybe tweaked a little?

 

Well. If someone wants to play an account 24/7 to get it to lv 200 by means of account sharing why not?

To Summarize what I was trying to say, if people admit to account sharing, they agree to having gaming restrictions due to this. If the persons do not admit to it, they should be automatically banned.

(Restrictions in this case could include not being on the top 100 list.)

But letting your brother take over while you go out is just the common account sharing that goes on.. this should not be considered bannable due to sharing, but also the owner must know that he cannot use it as an excuse when it comes to ban appeals.

 

Sorry for some bad examples, and unclearness. I'm pretty tired, attempted to explain in my reply, and haha just noticed I wrote absurd twice! hehehe

 

The original reason the rule was introduced to the server was because there was a shared account doing this, and it was deemed unfair. If players want legitimate competition to level against each other, then regulation like this needs to be in place.

 

How is that fair to someone who reached level 200 on there own?

Like Tentomon said

 

You guys are missing the point. The reason account sharing is banned without question is to avoid people using the "my brother hacked on my account" excuse. This occurs EXTREMELY frequently, and not pre-empting a ban option will cause a lot of wasted time and dispute.

 

Please read the rest of the reply, it includes a method of remedying this. I'm assuming top 100 already accesses the db directly. With that extra feature it will also have to check a quest. (It will probably double the time it takes to develop the list. So is it worth it? I hope so.)

 

Ya but even without account sharing i see "My brother hacked on his own account and now were both banned".

 

Okay, please note that I said these players would agree that they can no longer post " my account is hacked " reports when they admit to account sharing.

EDIT: Oh boy, I'm telling people to read things and I'm the one not reading it right. I apologize. But yes, same thing here this would be something they would agree that they cant post. (When the quest asks about account sharing, they reply yes, and so on)

 

Please explain how this is relevant to account sharing?

 

Because either way account sharing or not the same excuse is used.
If they hack on a server that allows account sharing they say it was there brother who hacked on there account and they dont get unbanned.
If they play on an account where account sharing is bannable they claim it was there brother who hacked on his own account and they dont get unbanned.

Im not disagreeing with you though dont get me wrong,i was just saying that it still happens just in diffrent ways.

Edit: Just an example a guy who was banned the other day for hacking said it was his brother that did it and the gms refused to unban him and told them that they do not know if he really actually has a brother and the brother was the one who was hacking.

 

Account sharing for the purpose of leveling and/or gaining an upper hand of basically having two alternating players constantly play is not allowed and a ban worthy offense and I am in 100% total agreement. However, were the GMs to suspect this type of behavior with abnormal amount of hours played consecutively and an unusually high amount of leveling in such a short amount of time then I would be for banning someone, granted they can gather enough information.

/beginrant
Having someone's long time girlfriend or wife use their computer to open up a shop for them while they are taking a crap or showering or at work because the server shut down while they are away are all examples of what is ban worthy at this moment if I am not mistaken and it's absolutely ridiculous and beyond the definition of being strict. I live with my girlfriend, we've been together 7 years, we have animals, share a car, share a shower, share a toilet, share a sink, share food, share water etc.. And I am being told what I can and can't do? Not acceptable. I can't get on her account for shop opening purposes? Or arrange items in her inventory? Or even hopping to her character to to teach her and how her how to add stat points or how to allocate her skill points level by level? I don't think it's fair and I sincerely hope being banned for such ridiculous reasons is reversed in the near future. /endrant


Back on top though, account sharing at the level of sharing you're suggesting Oldie, should not be permitted at all and isn't permitted in ANY server who give the slightest fuck about their economy, their players and the competitiveness of their players. Why should you or anyone else be allowed to rush your way to 200 and become a dominant character on a GMS-like server just because you think it should be allowed? It's a low rate GMs-like server for a reason and sharing a character for the purposes you are suggesting goes completely against the whole purpose of joining a low rate GMS-like server with an actual economy and plenty of room for competition. You're suggestion to allow account sharing for the purpose of personal gain with no regard for how the server will be affected is just as ridiculous as the reasons for being banned for account sharing because someone's boyfriend logged on to his girlfriend's account to arrange and sell her items for her.

 

I was just giving an example of why someone could be account sharing.
These games are for fun though. I don't see why fun should ever be denied. There always has to be ways to make the game more fun, to attract more varieties of players. I hate to break it to you but for some people, large progress is fun. Or doing a TAS is fun. Ofcourse this wouldn't be a TAS but somewhat compareable.

 

Please re-read UWCSS's post. Like he clearly stated, what is fun for one person may be degrading towards the experience of others. Not all fun is good.

 

You do have a point though, these servers are meant to be fun and when the owner/GMs of the server say that having two people play on the same character and go on to becoming the richest, highest level and one of the dominant characters on the server, they have all pretty much agreed that it will not be fun and it will most definitely have a negative impact on the server and it's community. I'll use myself as an example and say I don't agree with the account sharing idea for leveling and domination purposes because I don't want to join a server that is low rate and have two people on one character completely defeat the purpose of having a low exp rate, I want to see the competition between all the players and the community. As it stands now, we have a few level 200 players and there are probably a dozen or two who are grinding away day by day, so what makes you or anyone so special to come in here and hit level 200 while they grind away for x amount of weeks/months to achieve the same goal but on their own? It will completely destroy them knowing the owner of the server and the GMs have allowed some arrogant piece of shit go around bragging that he and his friend bested the top players on this server and hit 200 before they did and throw the whole server into a frenzy.

 

I'm sorry mate but you have it all wrong. I am not suggestion to allow account sharing for that reason. I'm suggesting it for the reason of your scenario with your girlfriend and scenarios where a brother or friend plays for a while with fair play enforced.

The account sharing for personal gain was only a different form of account sharing that came up and I decided to also attempt to bring to light. Please keep that in mind.

 

Well then I must have misunderstood something there, I was under the assumption you wanted people to admit they share accounts or IP's with other people in their household for the purpose of sharing accounts/characters so they may do whatever they please in exchange for not ever complaining they were "robbed" or "hacked" by the person they were sharing with and not for the reason of being banned for silly reasons like I have previously mentioned. If that's the case then yes I am with you for putting a stop to silly "account sharing" bans that have no impact on the server.