Another boat ride discussion

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by LilNoddy, Nov 16, 2017.

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Do you like the reintroduction of boat rides?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. **Yes, I like boat rides but I don't like being forced to buy fast travel tix

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  1. LilNoddy
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    Was there some vote held on re-introducing boat rides? Why does it seem so much more people are against it than for it, but it is still implemented? Is it just because the owners want to keep up their inconsistent and inflexible nostalgia policy?

    If that's the case, I rather they just say it out loud: "this is what I want the server to be, get over it". Rather than calling it the ultimate nostalgia experience. I've gone on one boat ride and it was fun and nostalgic and all, I killed two crogs but they died in two meteors so not so fun, but still okay, but fuck that if I have to keep going on them. And pay an amount that is unnecessary, no matter how small people keep saying it is.

    Call it for what it is if boat rides were to remain: a forced meso sink or owners' ideals but stop saying this is done for MUH NEW PLAYERS and MUH Nostalgia thank you.
     
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    Well personally I only took the boats once for nostalgia then I saved the maps in my rock to simply tele around, which makes it actually faster than how it was pre 11/14. I’ll admit that 3m per rock isn’t very new player friendly (Actually 3m is a lot for my cheap ass too), but hey, at least give them credit for finally fixing some things. (Guilds/Rides) And yes, rocks were added as a meso sink.
     
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    The boat rides are too long, if they are shorten by 5-10 minutes it would still be kinda enjoyable.
     
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    I love the fact they implemented it, but hate the fact that you need to buy a pass to skip them
     
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    "Nostalgia" for everyone that came to Royals went away a few weeks after we started playing. Likewise, nostalgia about boat rides will go away very soon. But what we say doesn't matter since this has been discussed before. At least we have the option to buy the fast travel ticket and save some time, but that's very inconvenient for new players since they don't have that much money to spend and might a) promote more grinding at low levels :) or b) keep away people from staying in the server :(. Skipabble boat rides was one of the reasons I loved Royals when I started and it definitely made me stay.
     
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    Basically this. Maybe I should've reworded my poll. I think boat rides are a good idea if they weren't so forced.
     
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    The cost of the tickets is not an issue for me. Maybe for new and casual players but not for me. I just struggle to see why something is implemented even though it is unpopular and has little value (can't see people going on boat rides >2 times, plus less people going on boat rides induces even less to keep doing so). Implementing boat rides seems like a disguise used just to implement fast travel tickets. The people saying "first world problems" and "it only costs x, get over it" don't get the point.

    At the end of the day, nothing is probably gonna get changed, but it will be wrong to not expect negative feedback to a change the majority dislikes. I had also hoped for this post to give a voice to those out there who prefer not to speak out about it.
     
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    This is the reasoning I struggle with. I obviously don't have that stats on who is waiting for boat times or who is purchasing the fast travel tickets but I feel if the majority of players are purchasing the fast travel tickets then what was the point to re-introduce the boat rides in the first place? Nostalgia? I feel like this is being looked at through rose-tinted glasses.
     
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    Just because everyone wants it doesn't mean it's what's best.
     
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    You guys really are making a chicken out of a feather. Be realistic, boat rides aren't something that'll make a big amount of players quit, or make them choose another server.

    Boats are great, I'm thrilled to hear they're available here :D ! And happy that people who want to skip it, can pay up and do so :p
     
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    I'm going to have to agree with you here. The fact that you can purchase a fast travel ticket is a bit contradictory to the nostalgia people are after. That was never in the original game. This is clearly just a Meso/NX sink for people who have been playing for a long time. People who claim this is for the nostalgia factor are most likely going to be tired of the change in a week or two and realize that the boat was the most boring and tedious part of old MS and start buying the fast travel ticket. I remembering jumping out of my chair in happiness the first time I played this server because I saw we could skip the boat if we wanted to. Now the price to do so has been jacked up way too high because of the inflated amount of mesos. Not everyone is keen on spending that much money to get to Ludi, after all, I have a full time job and the time I get to spend on my computer is precious. I was not pleased to see that I had to wait almost an hour to get my new Cleric on a second account (please fix character deletion) back to Victoria Island. I understand that rich people need something to throw their money at, but perhaps there is a different way to get the cash flowing then jacking the price of travel. No, this doesn't improve immersion. If you want immersion you can go outside and wait at a bus stop and get a better experience.
     
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    Why do you worry about low levels? They selling AP Reset for 16M each one and let's hope it goes up to 20M.
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    boat rides were part of nostalgic experience, i demand taking the fast travel ticket off and reducing the boat rides to 5 minutes.
     
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    Was it an enjoyable part of the experience though? Royals should try to make the game fun too, not just 100% like old MS which had tons of problems. I think they have done a good job this far and I love the server to pieces, but the boat ride was something I could of done without.
     
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    It was, there are many videos about the boat rides, watch dray86 hitting level 100 on that ellinia / orbis boat.

    I never said to make it 100% old MS like, i'm just suggesting to reduce the time waiting on that ship.

    Royals is far away to nostalgic experience IMO >.>
     
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    Boat rides, while long, can give you a break from playing the game for a second. It gives me chances to go get food or do other things around my house when I can't seem to tear myself away from the game for a bit. The music is what I missed most of all. It's clearly not what everyone is used to since we've had insta-travel since new source and cheaper instant travel in old source. But I really like it. For those who get money so easily it's ridiculous, they can easily still afford to fast travel forever. Those who don't have the money for fast travel tickets probably don't have anywhere to go in a hurry. I know it sounds kinda douchey, but I'd say just live with it. Everyone complains about the smallest inconveniences on here and it's a little tiresome.
     
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    You are right, but also wrong.

    One of the most popular party quests was carnival PQ, man i miss those days. Now it's broken and this server is still getting new players daily.

    and remember, many whined a lot because cpq got down.

    These players whine about everything, let's say voting NX decreases to 5,000k NX, these players would be in mad rage. Royals community acts like this is the best nostalgic p server, but they don't see the truth, and if they see, they don't care.

    they can't handle a nostalgic private server, they can't handle 10 min on a ship ride even though most most people play 10h a day.
     
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    I'm biased since I'm a huge fan of the ships and they were a crucial aspect of my nostalgia with Maple Story. That being said, the nostalgia doesn't really play out for me in this server (much like everything else that's nostalgic about this server—hello anyone wanna OPQ??!?) because everyone just skips them and I'm usually riding the ships alone. But there definitely is a sense of "completeness" when you go to a flying ship station and there's an actual flying ship instead of just being magically teleported.
     
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    I think you're just projecting.
     
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    There are videos about grass growing on YouTube too, that doesn't make them fun to watch.
     
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