Closed Ban Appeal

Discussion in 'Ban Appeal' started by silv, Dec 15, 2020.

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    Hi, could you please explain how you obtained 5 bcoins from a player last week?
     
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    Yes, sure. I sold my 13 atk pgc to someone’s smega for 5b coins + 700m. I sold my 190 tma wand 6 to a separate player for 3b coins via a forum post.

    As far as I remember, these were my only trades last week where I received any B coins.

    Edit: Since you specifically said 5b coins, it’s probably with regards to the pgc trade, so here are some more details.

    I do not remember the ign of the player I sold the pgc to, but since you have the logs you should be able to verify that they did receive a 13 atk pgc in return in the same transaction. You should also see that the player smega’ed about buying attack gears shortly before the trade. My guess is that this player is a RWTer and you guys blanket banned players who received B coins from them or something.

    I do not know the player, and was not aware of whether the player was legitimate or not at the time. All I did was whisper them in response to their smega, told them an s/b of 5.5b for a 13 pgc, and agreed to do a trade at 5.7b. This transaction occurred on 12/7 (probably on 12/8 in server time zone).

    I do not recall other instances of me receiving B coins from other players in the past 2-3 weeks aside from the two transactions I listed above.

    Hope that answers some questions that you may be raising.

    Edit 2: Upon reading other ban appeals, the ign “plaything” doing ring a bell. I’m pretty sure (not 100% though) that’s who I traded the 13 pgc with.
     
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    Hi there, I'd like to request a 2-week self-ban to be instituted, as soon as this ban appeal gets approved. It's honestly been a waste of my time and energy to check the forum constantly for updates or lack thereof, even when I know for certainty what the final outcome would be. This way at least I can set my expectations for when I expect to come back to the game, if I do decide to come back.

    I don't think there's much else information you need from me besides verifying that I did in fact trade a 13 atk pgc for 5b coins and 700m. Nonetheless, I would really like to get my name cleared at least before self-banning. If you really want me to prove that every meso I've earned is legit, I can probably do that too, since I did keep some sort of personal maple journal to document my progression.

    Maybe I'm coming off as being too impatient here, but one of my main motivations for logging on daily was actually the new HP quest. This may seem silly to some people, but it was kinda fun to see how far I can keep up without missing a single day's quest completion. Now that my streak is broken, plus the fact I will not reach 20 days on the advent calendar on the multiple side characters that I was planning on to level, it sort of just feels like my efforts has been devalued and gone to waste for no good reason, and that I just have less motivation and reason to log on now.

    From what I can tell, the staff does not compensate the players for this, let alone compensating me based on what I care about uniquely. I agreed to the TnC when I signed up, so there's not much to complain about here I guess. Tbh, this situation is really just as fair (or unfair) as randomly winning RR, if you just swap out the flower crown for an indefinite ban.

    The bottom line is just that I value my own time and energy more than whoever is handling this appeal, which is natural and all. This self-ban request is just a way to combat that imbalance, so I hope you can understand.
     
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    your story checks out and you're good to be unbanned, do you still wish to have a requested self ban for 2 weeks?
     
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    Thanks for the response Tim. I guess the point of me requesting a self-ban was for peace of mind, so that I don't have to check the forum frequently for my ban appeal status until much later, but a friend notified me that I got unbanned so there's not much point to the self-ban now. ~f12 I wouldn't mind serving it to hold my words accountable, but I do slightly prefer getting unbanned now because that gives me more optionality. Thanks for respecting my request and being considerate in the first place!

    Also, I know staff might already be discussing this, but is it possible to void the days I missed on my characters for the Christmas advent calendar?
    The turnaround time for my appeal was honestly faster than I expected (so thanks for that!), but I haven't been keeping a perfect record for the advent calendar because I only expected to do 20/25 days, so I don't think I'd be able to complete it anymore. It'd honestly mean quite a bit and give me some more motivation to play, though I understand if it's infeasible or the current policy says otherwise.
     
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    we cant do anything about your event participation however you have been unbanned as requested
     
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    I understand it may be hard to change my event participation, but what about something as simple as refunding my characters with 1.5x exp cards after 12/25? Otherwise, isn't this akin to saying that every hour of my time that I put in in Mapleroyals in the next two weeks is just going to be valued 33% less than everyone else (including rwters and ban evaders that are still running loose on the server), just because I sold a 13 atk pgc for 5.7b to some smega? Or if I ever decide to buy leech, then I would have to spend 50% more mesos compared to others?

    Imagine if your manager tells you that for the next month, everyone is getting a 50% hourly pay bump except you, just because your birthday fell on Friday the 13th or something. Is it fair? Maybe, if everyone's birthday is drawn a priori from some random sample. Does it seem reasonable? I'm not sure, but I'd guess that most people would say no just on moral conscience.

    I hope you guys can reconsider whether it is ok for the server to devalue the time and effort of certain players over others, for reasons that are entirely out of the player's control. (It may be tempting to argue that this ban appeal could've been easily avoided if the staff were more careful in the investigation, but I'd rather not go there as I do not understand nor want to make assumptions on the investigatory procedure.)

    I understand that staff may be wary of setting historical precedence, but I think in this case, it should be pretty incontroversial that compensation as simple as 1.5x exp cards is much closer to what's fair than no remediation at all.

    This is notwithstanding the material loss of expiring fast travel tickets, hired merchants, and Frederick's late pickup tax, and simply the option to play the game and earn mesos, all of which I've just accepted as infeasible for staff to evaluate and go through the trouble to compensate.

    Ultimately, players and staff are unaffected by this one-off case, and don't really need to care, aside from conscience reasons. The only real way I can combat this is to choose to not play on this server, just like how the only real way the employee can express his dissent is to quit the job, and that's probably a lose-lose situation.
     
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