ALL Your Character Names: Sponsored, GoldMine1 thru 4, Legalizeit, Programs, InsertCrash, Banelings, UseLessPots, MuleNextDoor, ShyPooper, Guarding, Buccanoid, + storage mules Last thing you did: Afk in lounge Why do you think you got banned?: Clueless Ban message when attempting to login: ID has been blocked or deleted What GM banned you (optional):
Hello, You were banned for macro botting. Can you explain what you were doing before you were banned?
Hum sure? Yesterday I was multi-mage farming at ulu1 for a few hours until approx. 4:20 PM EST (no pun intended), which is ~8:20PM server-time. I then logged off all my mages/looter (that way pets never go hungry and I don’t die due to forgetting resetting my potions). I also sent my bucc (which I leave at ulu for leeching most of the time) straight to the lounge and afk’ed there, as I often do. Then I left home and realized I was banned when I came back later that night, several hours later. That’s pretty much it, unless you want details on how I use multiple mages to farm? But I’m definitely not the only ulu farmer out there so I don’t think it is anything new to you guys.
If you could provide details about how you multi-mage farm that would be great. Specifically how you cast mage ultimates at the same time on multiple characters (without delay).
Well there is most certainly a small delay between casts, otherwise my mages would basically never get hit by mobs and I can assure you they do. I usually manage to get the first cast right on time such that the mage doesn't get hit, but often the 2nd mage (in the same channel) does get hit (provided that the mobs spawned right on top of the mage of course). Now the general idea to cast as fast as possible across 2+ clients is to have each client shown separately on the windows task bask, such that they are accessible through Windows + 0-9 keys as if they were different "apps" (to do so, just copy Royals app several times and give it different names, or an alternative is to go in windows task bar settings to unstack icons in taskbar). This makes all the clients accessible via Win + 0-9 keys, and I also place them right next to each other on the windows taskbar, allowing me to switch very fast from one client to another, by either: - using Win + 0-9 keys - click on the Royals icons within the taskbar successively (I've tested both methods for several dozen of hours each and they are both very fast, to this day I don't even know which performs better, the difference is difficult to measure). Actually as I am writing this I realize I may not be the best to explain the idea properly, but I found it within a forum post on a different private server. Am I allowed to post the link here? Otherwise I can send it your way, let me know the preferred option, the post is well-written and easy to understand. In any case, this leads to near simultaneous casts on both mages in the same channel (BUT NOT WITHOUT DELAY; there definitely is a small one). Let me re-iterate that if there were no delay, I would probably manage to NEVER get hit on mages which is definitely impossible to the best of my knowledge. Lastly, this may not provide any additional benefits to my appeal, but I would like to point out that I've literally been farming ulu1 for as long as I can remember. I consider myself to be among the most experienced ulu farmers there is out there. cheers
At this point I have requested that an admin review this case further. They will respond when they are available.
we manually used our anti bot tools to check for your activity and you failed the test resulting in a ban for macro botting.
Well you put me in a very awkward position here...how the hell am I supposed to defend myself? I genuinely was farming all by myself without the assistance of any third-party program/macro. There are several questions I would like you to answer. 1) Could it be a false positive? Perhaps the various thresholds you use and whatnot aren't properly calibrated? Your very forum signature suggests that the anti-hack system did suffer from that problem in the past, where it would falsely ban legitimate players. Afterall, I don't mean to be rude but it wouldn't be the first time you guys implement something without proper testing first. 2) You did unban other players in the past using a technique very similar to mine (Ctrl+click on taskbar icon to switch clients). I don't mean to brag, but I find my technique to be even more convenient and faster (and it is a very similar technique in any case). At this point should I feel flattered to be so efficient that even your system thinks I'm cheating? But my real question here is, are you implying that my technique isn't legit? If so, why isn't it written down anywhere in the Terms & Conditions? 3) Speaking of Terms & Conditions, Why did no GM come into my channel and actually talk to me? I ALWAYS answer people coming into my channels, whether they are newbies asking for free leech or other experienced farmers asking if I know about the best synched channels at the moment. Pretty sure you could validate this with other farmers too. The statements under Robotic play says "This act will be defined as the failure of a player to respond to a member of Staff when prompted and visibly at the controls of their character, as evidenced by actions such as movement or use of skills." I find it very odd that you didn't even give me the chance to show I was an actual legitimate player sitting in front of my screen and actually farming. I also find it very odd that even yourselves don't seem completely convinced by your evidence. Otherwise you wouldn't have let me any chance to explain and I would've got an answer similar to this one: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/id-has-been-deleted-or-blocked-from-connection.209686/ 4) On a similar topic, the Terms & Conditions says this is a temporary ban for "Robotic Play". If your accusation is that I've been controlling multiple clients with single keys (this seems to be the case based on Bacon's very first question), then I should be under a temporary ban, correct? Because if you're implying a permanent ban, then you're saying its a "severe abuse". I would like you to define what is meant by severe abuse in my case. More specifically, if you're saying I've literally been botting at ulu map, please explain the following: - How the hell was I able to maintain two different shops filled with Ulu godlies equips? Can a bot be smart enough to keep godly equipments and not npc them? check the logs on my character MuleNextDoor and UseLessPots to see that I've actually been keeping my godlies and selling them in fm shops since forever. - Spawn timers do have some variance. Yet you seem to claim my mages were very efficient at casting their ultis at the right moment. I would appreciate a proper explanation on this. To me, it looks like I'm simply doing a great job of casting my ultis quickly and you may have mistaken this for a bot, but how would a bot know when to cast exactly on time if timers have variance (and we all know they do). Even so, as I stated before, my mages DO get hit relatively often, simply because I'm far from being able to cast perfectly on time at every respawn. I do make mistakes too lol. Also, on this I wanna add that I've been farming for so long that it's literally muscle memory to me. I can probably understand an unexperienced player looking at this suspiciously, but I'm pretty sure any other experienced farmer would know it can't possibly be a bot. Lastly, I would appreciate my appeal to be expedited. This isn't the first time I'm being accused of shit I didn't do, and it really ruins the whole Royals experience for me. https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-appeal.180446/#post-1055137
1) Can't really be a false positive as it was a manual intervention by a GM, in which your mages and looter continued to repeat the same patterns, when they were put in a scenario where they shouldn't have. The evidence has been reviewed by many staff members already with no concerns made regarding the decision to ban. 2) It's possible the evidence - after review - was not sufficient. 3) We cannot comment on the techniques used for determining whether somebody is macro botting, only that the intervention used by the GM should have invoked a reaction by you, which did not happen. 4) Macro botting is a permanent ban, a temporary ban would apply to robotic play that doesn't involve macros, such as keyweight botting. 4a) It would require a pretty smart bot to differentiate weapons of different stats, but we are not suggesting that the entire process of npc'ing and setting up your store is done robotically. We are just going off what was seen in-game during your time mage farming at the Ulu map. 4b) For the majority of maps in the game, the respawn time is every 8 seconds, there is no variance to this apart from latency. But yes, it possible for a bot to know when there are mobs on the map or not. I hope this answers all your questions.
