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    ALL Your Character Names: Slippinjim, Slippinheals, Slippinsi, Slippinpal
    Last thing you did: Ulu2 leech
    Why do you think you got banned?: No idea
    Ban message when attempting to log in: blocked
    What GM banned you (optional): Bacon

    Bacon jumps into my map says hi and accuses me of macro and then I got booted out the game
     
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    I replied back and told Bacon I was playing the whole time and not once did any GM try to get my attention before that. I had multiple buyers throughout the whole day making arrangements, going back to store to NPC things.
     
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    Hello. You were indeed permanently banned for macro botting. I will have the rest of Staff review the evidence against you and we will make a final decision. We will reply here when we have that decision.
     
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    Before I said Hello to you, why did you not notice me trying to get your attention for multiple minutes?
     
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    Hi Bacon, thanks for reaching out.

    I did not see any other messages from you or attempts before your Hi , I mightve said hi to you first when you appeared infront of me then shortly after we were conversating then you disappeared and my leech buyer was also confused as to what happened so I explained it to him. I have responded back to all my leech buyers today about time left on leech, extensions and reaching out to more leech buyers. If you had said anything before Hi then I do apologize I mustve have missed it. Im always present at the screen and controlling my character.
     
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    If you were watching your screen you would have noticed my attempts to get your attention beforehand. I was not just trying to talk to you beforehand, but also using other methods.

    How do you normally leech? Do you TC throughout the leech session, not TC at all, etc.?
     
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    I know im repeating myself but I genuinely did not notice any other attempts you did with other methods while leeching except your sudden appearance infront of me and I said hi to you and we spoke for a few seconds before you left. Ulu 2 is a relatively flat map, im not just focussed entirely on hitting the most mobs of monsters, im thinking about constantly making sure hs is there, magic gaurd up and mw so I can one hit. I also have my inventory up to see if I picked up any good cravens and making sure to empty out when full. I was also at 93% before leveling and I was going to killmyelf to not lvl up so my leechers gets the most experience. If by any chance I did miss your previous attempts then it was an honest mistake and may have had tunnel vision. I do TC sometimes but majority of the time I dont because it requires too much effort and im not very efficient at continuous TC. I make sure to update my leechers of time left when they ask. I can provide all the names of leechers today.
     
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    Hello. I have discussed your case with the rest of Staff, and I regret to inform you that your ban will remain permanent. You did respond to me when I said “Hi” at the end, but everything else before that shows us that you were indeed using macros even if you were present at the computer. I know this is not the outcome you were hoping for, but we have to make these decisions based upon the evidence that we have.
     
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    Hello Bacon, please see below link.

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    As shown on this example video, we were having a conversation just like this I had responded immediately. If by any chance I was warped to a different map then certainly that wouldve got my attention but that was not what happened, if there were other attempts to get my attention then again I mustve have missed it and truly an honest mistake. As mentioned ulu2 is a flat map anyone could essentially attack without even being attentive the entire time. I may have glanced at my second monitor to watch videos or even my phone while leeching, so the other attempts to get my attention mustve been really subtle whatever it mightve been. I leech for long hours and understand it may look suspicious with repetetive movements but I was not macrobotting as im sure my movements were always different in each sequence. What I dont get is why even bother to get my attention with an in game text chat if it was certain? There must be some sort of benefit of doubt. You can reach out to the leech buyers today they could tell you I had responded to them whenever they had a question during their leech session. Please consider to lift or reduce to temporary ban.
     
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    I have removed the video link, please don't post it (or any other similar videos) again

    Posting it again would result in a permanent forum ban
     
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    Apologies Dave, I didn't know I wasnt allowed to post that. I thought I could use that as reference video representation of an ex-gm handling a similar situation since I didn't record my encounter with Bacon. We can take this on DM if any other personal information should arise.

    I had a chance to read over the TOS, in my case I believe it is under moderate infraction and subject to temporary ban. I don't know what other prompts before my conversation with Bacon had happened but we can both agree on certainly I stopped in a timely manner of what I was doing and responded back promptly on the verbal exchange. As you know responding to any verbal text chat is subtle enough and can be missed by many people but I was present and able to respond back.

    5. Robotic Play - This act will be defined as the failure of a player to respond to a member of Staff when prompted and visibly at the controls of their character, as evidenced by actions such as movement or use of skills. In the situation where a player is prompting another player, a response is not strictly mandatory; however, a player report in which a player is being prompted numerous times without a response over a long period of time may be considered sufficient evidence for consequences under this rule at the discretion of Staff. As such, we strongly suggest to all players to respond to any prompts in order to avoid being portrayed in a manner which may not be true. The use of third-party key macros which cause one input action to register multiple outputs, or leaving weights on your keyboard, or any other method which allows your character to function without your presence or interaction will be considered grounds for consequences under this rule.
     
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    Like Bacon said, the rest of us reviewed the evidence gathered against you and unfortunately the ban will have to stay for botting.

    I cannot go into detail because we have hackers who lurk in these threads to figure out what we do, and our methods have to adapt and improve overtime because of it-- similar to how botters adapt and try to improve not getting detected. I wish we could be more lenient and explain what triggered it, but we can’t for the sake of future script development hindering our methods to catch future cheaters.

    In your case, we were able to record the exact time-frame from when you “took over” the botting program and started to play legitly, after watching you for several minutes prior.

    This isn’t the only thing that led to the ban there were a few more discrepancies we cannot reveal publicly, but this was one of the most painfully obvious ones indicating that it was a program being used and you were not playing your character. You failed to respond to other checks done prior to Bacon revealing himself and typing to you as well, so unfortunately there’s not really much we can do here. :(
     
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