Closed Ban Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Multi

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    Last thing you did: Got banned for account sharing
    Why do you think you got banned?: Because loging in on a different machine in under 3minutes is suspicious
    Ban message when attempting to log in: permanently banned cerzbbz: accountsharing
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    Hey, recently me and my brother's account got banned for account sharing. I find this odd as we were not account sharing, however, we do live [literally] right beside each other.
     
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    Even if that were the case it still doesn't justify logging in on the same computer within minutes. Are you implying you and your brother live next door of eachother and he rushed over to your place after he logged out so he could log in again there?
    The IP addresses used indicate that you most likely didn't even connect from the same city.
     
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    Nope, I don't indicate that he rushed round, although, if I'm honest, I think he could arrive in roughly 3minutes if he did.
    In fact, the normally way in which I connect to one of my own computers is through teamviewer, and, any time he needs access to one of my computers he will do the same, as we have an account connecting all of our devices.

    Why would you do this, you might ask?
    Well, the original reason is completely unrelated to maple royals, so I'm not going to get into it. However, it was benefiting us in regards to Royals, as multi client wasn't enabled. Being able to remotely connect to multiple computers at a time, quickly, allowed us to utilize our own version of a multiclient. It also meant that we could swap out between them depending on where we were. For example, if I was in my universities library, I could connect in to either of my desktops at home, or my brothers computer if needed, this saved me having to use proxies to circumvent the uni wifi in order to play games. As you can guess though, VNCing onto a computer is going to be slow, nearly unplayable, so this method is only really suitable to perform minor actions - like logging in a character and moving it to a safe spot to leech.

    For the instance where Twibs logged out and in, within 2 minutes (and 42 seconds), at completely different IPs is once again easily explained. Twibs has been with me at my house and went home. I don't know the exact time in which this happened, but one night I remember it happening was when we were doing ToT quests. Twibs came round to my house to get food while we done ToT quests, later he left, but left his account logged in, on one of the computers in my house. Once he got home he connect into my computer and logged himself out. Now, honestly I'm mainly surprised it took him 2 minutes (and 42 seconds) to log in and out.

    As you are questioning the legitimacy of us living near each other, I'll go and get you pictures of letters addressed to us at each location. Using these you can use google maps to verify that we live practically beside each other.
    Note: if you do request these I won't be sharing them publicly as, but will PM them to you, as I do not feel comfortable releasing that information unless required.

    Thanks, Cerz.
     
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    That's interesting because the example with the 2 minutes and 42 second I gave was when Twibs logged out at his usual location and was shortly after logged in at your location and computer. This would mean he didn't go home and log himself out from your PC to play again at home but on the contrary he logged out at his own place and logged in at yours shortly after. I don't see any benefit in moving to a leech location for example via a teamviewer connection through your computer after he just logged out on his regular setup.
     
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    As I said, I don't know the exact time in which this happened. But if you're saying the situation was the other way around, he could have left himself logged on at his house and moved over to mine. Heck, he could have even been in starbucks, the library, or driving in his car for all I'm aware. But, for him to move from his house to mine would have most likely been done through teamviewer. He could have even logged out at his house, then used teamviewer to log himself on my computer before coming around, or heading out to another location. There are endless different reasons to why he chose to do this.

    And just because you don't see benefit in perform an action in a certain way, doesn't mean that the action will not be performed as not everyone shares the same opinion. I sometimes log my accounts in and just leave them afk all day, there are other players that do the same, and there are also many players who see no point in such actions.

    There are many different reasons that Twibs may want to log in his account on one of my computers such as:
    • He needs it logged in for transferring items and is already using his laptop/computer,
    • He's being a ___ and wants to wake me up with the horrific sound of using genesis over and over again,
    • He intends on coming over to my house,
    • He is at my house,
    • He wants to show me something on his account,
    • He's at the library and his computer is off - and for some reason will not wake up using wake on LAN,
    • His monitor is failing to display maplestory correctly,
    • He's asked me to leech him,
    • I've asked him to leech me,
    • I've asked him to log on and HS me whilst I train my account,
    • He's leeching himself so has logged in his ALT on one of my machines,
    • He just wants to use my main computer as it's a beast compared to his,
    These are some of the situations on which I know that Twibs has logged in on one of my machines, and I'm sure there are many more reasons why he has, or why he would.
     
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    Be it by teamviewer or any other source that lets you connect to your computer remotely we cannot endorse two accounts belonging to different people online on the same computer playing (nearly) at the same time.
     
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    I don't think a situation has arose where we have both been using the same computer to play at the same time, as many complications would arise doing so. The only logical way for that to be done would be through hotseatting.
    Also, the scenario you're suggesting wasn't possible prior to having multiclienting enabled. And since the release of multi-clienting, our use of any vnc software for maple purposes has drastically decreased - as we were originally using it to get around the need for multiple VMs as they're a much higher performance strain when compared with the likes of teamviewer.

    However, your post reads like you have reached a final verdict. Yet to me it seems as you have basically lambasted any housemates/family who wish to use the same hardware (or internet connect for that matter) to play the game.

    Thanks, Cerz.
     

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