Closed Banned; Evidence Provided.

Character Name: newflex
Last thing you did: started a conversation with gert, tim, and shane in forums containing screenshots with the character "newflex" in it. I uploaded these images to imgur so I can post images in conversation, I don't know if that is relevant.
Why do you think you got banned?: i have no idea. only this account out of all of them are banned. but the last time only one of my accounts got banned, Tim told me i might've been hacked, and i was asked to change my password. I believe my character was in the free market.
Ban message when attempting to log in: this id has been deleted or blocked from connection.
What GM banned you (optional): n/a

 

Yes I can. I have a total of 4 accounts. I'll try my best.
Newflex (bishop), fendimann, islandmann, mini0n (hero), halp1123, gotice, pervertt, balenciagaa, trumprich, p3rvert?, ioldplayer, and some others one that I don't really play on. They're just mules. You can find these characters in any of the 4 accounts I mentioned. I can provide you with usernames if needed. Can you let me know what I am suspected of? Although you hear this all the time, I haven't done anything against TOS, and there is a misunderstanding. Please investigate.

 

Yes I can run you thru it. I’ve been buying them in the free market with my hero mini0n for 450-460m and reselling them on my fm mule gotice for 480-490m. And when all the CS/WS are sold, I go to fm 1 with a chalkboard/spam with mini0n and I buy more and repeat. That's what all merchants do, and that's why a lot of shops of hundreds of the same item. I use use gotice as my gachapon and fm mule because it was teleport and i can navigate efficiently. If you check the trade logs of mini0n for these past two weeks or so, you can see that I've been purchasing chaos and white scrolls for the amount that I mentioned. In fact, I have some screenshots and IGNs of the players I bought CS/WS from, which you will see will match your trade logs. People that I bought CS/WS from on mini0n include, Vona (sold me at least 20), myfmmule, dawat, kaninabeh, ladydior and a bunch of other players who I do not remember, because I don't always keep records of my transactions thinking something will happen... And if you want to question where my wealth comes from, I've been playing this server for 4 years and I've been voting everyday that I remember. When I started to become more active these past 2 months, I came back and had 21CS+7WS+B coins+ over 1 million nx saved up (which I used all at shrine gach). This is where I got my merchant investment funds from. I have screenshots of my nx and my wealth along with the server time to show you my progression. Please review them below.






As mentioned above, I provided some of many igns of the people I bought scrolls from and flipped. Please check trade logs and you will see this is the truth. I do not know any of them personally and I did not get any for free. I only bought them for cheaper. The screenshots also show my 1mil nx and that I had that wealth to begin with from voting and saving up. No nonsense, no vote abuse, no hacks, no bs. Im as clean as a whistle. Thank you for your time.
***Please serve me justice because my shop closes. I know you guys are busy...

 

Forgot to mention, those players ign that I listed traded me multiple times because of the max meso trade limit, so that is something you will see on your trade logs... Additionally, I'm making 10-15mil off every CS/WS that I sell, and I repeat the routine. The trade logs alone that show where I bought these scrolls should explain everything. If I were getting these scrolls for free or doing something sketchy, I'd be a lot richer than what you're looking at in my account. I have screenshots of me building my hero by buying 10atk fs, 12 dex earrings, 16atk scg, etc; I'm not buying no perfect weapons or 20+atk gloves that other people are getting banned for. I'm innocent...

 

I don't know what you mean when you say "wouldn't the amounts be a bit more even?" Are you saying that the CS and WS amounts are not even? That's because when I just started buying a shop to merch, CS was the majority of what I had from gaching at shrine. You can see from the SS above that I have a lot more CS than WS. Before I started merching, I also traded all my WS away to a person named "shakiras" so that i can purchase a facestomper. I have a SS of that transaction as well. Then I started spamming only for CS because I knew the price of the CS, it was what I had most of, and I knew it was higher demand of WS. Simply put, I felt more confident and comfortable with just dealing CS. The only reason I slowly shifted towards buying WS is because people started asking if I wanted WS too. I knew I can buy them at 440 and sell at 470. You can see in the SS above where I traded myfmmule, she asks me if I want WS, after selling me CS. thats because my chalkboard/spam only said that I was buying CS. this explains why i have more CS than WS... Also you can see that the price I bought her 2 WS for completely matches the 440m amount that I am claiming. Also my trade logs with the igns I mentioned previously (vona,dawat, ladydior, etc) also show that Ive been buying more CS than WS, and ive been paying for them with mesos fair and square. You can also check whispers that I have with VONA. I asked him multiple times if he had more CS to sell. The whispers will also show you that I priced a CS in my store for 380m instead of 480m, and i rant to him about it because of my lost mesos. <<- These ALL happened on mini0n. You can check my store that i have in fm 4, I sell a lot of chaos scrolls but it goes right back into reinvesting in more. That is why I am holding less than 20 chaos at any given time, because that is all that I can afford. If those 125 CS you said I sold was gotten thru illegal means, you'd be able to see that I have a lot of them at once in my inventory... You can also see that I am buying billion coins every time my CS is sold, then I would resell the billion coins to buy more CS. In fact, I smegaed once or twice about buying and selling CS for a certain amount of price on either gotice/mini0n. im not sure if you can check that. As for the online times for my character mini0n, I think you are looking at the wrong section of your logs. Please look at the times when I traded vona, myfmmule, and the other players. I have been on for HOURS. The logs that show mini0n logging in for only minutes at a time is when I am transferring mesos or scrolls between characters. I believe that the trade logs show CS scrolls are the majority of what I am getting, and I believe that my reasoning is clear.

 

I’m not sure what other evidence I can provide you other than my trade logs and what I am telling you what I am doing with my character mini0n. the screenshot of my trade with myfmmule shows that I was originally just buying CS, and your trade log show that I’m getting 95% CS thru my trades. I shouldn't be held accountable for choosing to buy more CS, or because people choose to sell me CS instead of WS because I’m paying less for WS. Also, it cannot be true that mini0n has only been on for minutes at a time. I provided you the igns of the players I bought the CS from. Surely it'll be impossible to purchase that many CS right in a few minutes as you claimed. Those are the few things that I want to emphasize. For your claim about me just being on mini0n for minutes at a time, please check the log before that. I’m literally on mini0n most of the time, either with a chalk board, spamming, or bossing. what are you suspecting me of? I’ve been on my bishop newflex for hours these past 2 weeks farming heartstoppers and I have over 800 of them on mini0n that I also plan on selling. I wouldn’t have to spend that much time farming them if I can easily make mesos by whatever way you are suspecting me of. I’m literally holding a level 77 sword on my 141 hero because I’m saving up enough mesos to buy a good ST. <<- I know that this info may or may not be irrelevant to you, but you guys usually keep a person banned when things sound weird to you, which is why I felt the need to bring it up so that I can reason with you. I believe that I provided the evidence needed, and you have logs at your disposal to review if you choose to do so. I only ask that you'd be fair to me. I’ve seen countless ban appeals of ppl being banned for unaccounted items or getting items thru RWT or account sharing. But I've provided you igns, screenshots, and all the information I could to help you with your investigation, and I am sure there is nothing that points to rwt or account sharing... Please excuse me for my paragraphs, I’m concerned about my account, and I’m a bit frustrated because I am wrongfully banned.

 

Like many players, I usually do not keep records of transactions that I make, so I hope what I've been able to provide is useful to you. Please take the time to review the trade logs, log in times and chalk board purchases. I don’t know what else evidence to provide you except for those. ALL the chaos scrolls that I have gained was either from purchases or gachapon. With all due respect, I hope that you and your team has the mindset of investigating to prove my innocence, and not the other way around by coming up with reason after reason to pin me for something. I just want to sum up your suspicions/uncertainties and address them.
1. More CS than WS? - I was originally just buying CS because I was certain of its demand, price, and I had more of those to begin with. I also only gach in shrine which is why I am more in contact with CS than WS. I have each and every CS accounted for through trade logs. Also, your logs should show that when I started my habit of spamming in the fm, I said B>cs 450m ea, or 460m ea, and I did not include WS in the beginning, until very later on when I decided to flip those as well. IF I received those 125 CS from illegal means, I would be (125x490m ) richer, and not have to slowly build my net worth as you can easily check in my account. After the 3% tax from trade, I make 10-15m per scroll. Furthermore, if I can get stuff by illegal means, why would I foolishly get CS and take the time to resell them, instead of just straight up getting the high attack equips that I want? Also, you'd probably notice that more smegas in the game are buying CS than WS, so that's another point why it's not unreasonable for me to have more CS than WS. Therefore, I don’t believe having more CS than WS is a crime.
2. Where do I get the CS from? - I got a good amount from spending all my nx at shrine gach, but a majority from merching in the fm. Please check trade logs from Vona (sold me at least 20), myfmmule, dawat, kaninabeh, and many many more players. I have only 30k nx left from 1 million (SS). Also, my guildie's mule 'capttony' asked me in all chat once if I actually profit from flipping CS. I'm not sure if I was on gotice/mini0n, but that conversation should show you that I am legitimate merchant.
3. Log in times that don’t make sense? - Respectfully, I believe you’re looking at the wrong place. The few minute intervals I log in for that you see on your logs are for transferring. please look at the log in times before that, and you will see that mini0n is online a majority of the time, especially when the CS trade transactions took place. When I have bought enough CS for merching, that is when I stop spamming and log on and off frequently to transfer items, or so that I can get on my fm mule to organize my shop after things sold. I hold mesos and b coins on mini0n or storage, and I hold all for sale stuff on gotice because that is my fm mule.
4. still not believable? - I don't know what else to say. I try to put all the evidence and explanation in front of you so that you can easily match it with logs; including the reason why the CS and WS amount is uneven. I hope you guys look at the evidence and have a stricter standard of proof to ban me. At this point, it seems as though I am able to provide you answers with every question you ask, but it’s still unclear what I am in trouble for. Throughout these 4 years I’ve been playing, I haven’t been banned a single time for breaking any rules, and I’ve shown nothing but respect to all of you. If the evidence is still not convincing enough, I do not believe I should remain banned simply because of beliefs or assumptions. A lot of things are not explainable in the game, such as passing multiple 10%s in a row, or getting WS on your last gacha, etc... but my case is not something that is unexplainable. You can ask me more questions if you'd wish, and I will give you my most truthful answer, but nothing I have done is against the TOS. Thank you.
edit: I see tiger2020 in his fresh ban appeal who is banned for cs/ws as well; I honestly think there's some misunderstanding in the system you guys have that raises red flags for people like us. We're just merchants that are flipping scrolls like everyone else, but it raises concerns because the scrolls we are flipping are the most expensive ones on the server. And unlike the players banned for the same thing, I'm pointing you in the exact direction of where you can prove my innocence. I hope you can excuse me for my essays, because I'm banned and quarantined so I have nothing to do but to provide you with whatever I can. i hope I haven't offended you in any way. Thank you.

 

Tim, you have asked me to post as many transactions as I can find to my appeal. I have screenshots of me purchasing a FS with WS and coins, and also a SCG with coins. I also have a screenshot of my inventory when I was setting up my shop. The SS shows my inventory full of scrolls that I have gached from Shrine. Total of 3 screenshots below. Unfortunately, I don't have SS of me purchasing CS except for the one with myfmmule, because she has traded me multiple times selling me CS/WS, and I thought it was sketchy because she looked like a noob, which is why I took the SS. I hope you can understand that I didn't feel the need to SS the decisions I made in the game if I followed the rules, which is why I'm lacking these SS, not because I'm hiding anything. The reason why I have SS of the attack gear I bought is because someone suggested that I should do so to avoid RWT accusations. If I knew that you weren’t able to trace logs with simply an ign, I would’ve knew to take screenshots instead of remembering the few igns that I bought CS from. My explanation still holds true, I have bought a majority of my CS from the players, Vona, myfmmule, dawat, kaninabeh, ladydior, etc. I hope that you can see this from the trade logs. If it helps, my transaction with 'dawat' and 'kaninabeh' was on Tuesday around 7:06am EST, and one of my transactions with Vona was on Sunday around 9:14pm EST. I've done multiple transactions with all these players. Also, I whispered Vona and buddied him asking him for more CS; you can find this in your chat logs. Again, if I had a way to get these CS illegally, I wouldn't have to buy a single one from anyone of the players I listed, and if I wanted mesos, I'd straight up get b coins or equips. Instead, I've spammed with chalk boards and bought teddy merchants twice to sell and try to save up mesos. Please read my previous posts in this appeal as it will assist you in the investigation. Anyways, the Screenshots I mentioned are below...

 

I also have a screenshot of tons of people whispering me to try to buy my CS because I accidentally smegaed that I was selling it for 375m instead of 475m. I also have 2 screenshots showing how much I have sold CS for at a particular time, along with the server time displayed. After these scrolls are sold, I would collect it on 'gotice', and transfer the mesos to mini0n, then I would do it all over again... my shop would have 16 CS at most because that’s what I could afford, and when those sell out, I get more with the chalkboard. I have never had more cs than what I can afford with mesos/gach. Hopefully these screenshots would help you as well.



List of players that I remember buying CS/WS from:
Vona, myfmmule, dawat, kaninabeh, ladydior, truereligion?

edit: I’d like to add for that facestomper SS: if I were obtaining CS by illegal means, why did I pay her in a mix of WS and mesos? If I did that, I wouldn’t have to go thru the hassle of selling cs/ws for mesos. That’s because I didn’t have anymore ws at the time.

 

Tim, if you look at everything my character possesses right now, it would only make sense for the 125 cs I sold to be for a slight profit margin. I buy around 20 cs in the fm from those igns I mentioned, and I sell them, and repeat that process. If I hadn’t had to pay for the cs, you’d be able to see that I have a ton of cs in my inventory or a ton of mesos. But I don’t. That’s because I’m gaining only 10m-15m per sale of cs. And it’s not because I bought equips with the cs either because those equips I bought were before I started merchanting.

 

Hey Tim, thanks for your reply. I'll address your bullet points one by one...

1. No I do not lose any profit at all, because gotice and mini0n are on the same account. You should be able to see this right? I'm not trading mesos through characters on different accounts, that would be foolish of me. I buy CS scrolls on mini0n and I sell them on gotice. I chose to make gotice my fm mule because it has teleport, and I can easily go to gachapon and around the fm with teleport. If I was up to no good, I wouldn't have to transfer between characters at all. I'd just sell all my CS on one character and keep my mesos.
2. I have already explained why I have more CS than WS. I'll explain it to you again with 3 reasons. The first reason is because I ONLY gached at mushroom shrine, which does not give WS. I spent over a million nx points there ever since the virus lockdown. If you refer to my SS of my cash shop, you can see how much nx I had, which I do not have anymore because I spent it. The SS of me in the fm with my use tab opened also shows a bunch of 30% scrolls that I got from shrine from gaching there. The second reason relates to my knowledge of the CS. CS were what I had left before I started merching. I traded all my WS away to player 'shakiras' for a facestomper which I showed in my SS above. I had an idea of what it was worth because I focused more on the CS I had, and I felt more comfortable with buying more and flipping those instead of taking the risk to merch with WS. If you refer to the SS above where I traded with myfmmule, she asks me if I also want 'ws'. This is because my spam/chalkboard only asked to buy CS. If I was buying both CS/WS, she wouldn't have asked me that at all, and would instead ask me how many of them I wanted to buy. I only bought WS when people traded me and offered it to me. The reason why I ONLY have the screenshot of me trading myfmmule is because she dressed like a noob and had traded me multiple times within a few days to sell me CS/WS. She was the only one sketchy to me. To help you with investigation, you can even look at my whispers with 'vona', I have asked him multiple times if he had more CS to sell. I only asked for CS. I RARELY spammed for WS for the reasons that I mentioned. The third reason why I have more CS than WS is because I saw that CS was more expensive than WS and I knew there was more demand for CS which would make them easier to flip.<<'tiger2012' mentioned something similar in his successful appeal and I explained this even before he did. A lot of players would agree that CS are more expensive and demanded. In addition, I do not feel there's anything suspicious with just merching CS and not CS & WS if I choose to do so. I do not believe this is considered as an unusual pattern either, unlike the guy who has a whole inventory of expensive stars whom you already unbanned. It was my merching strategy and there is no social norm that says I'd have to have the same WS as CS. If I was up to no good, I would just have ALL CS and no WS at all, but I have some WS only because of the reasons I mentioned. Similar to merchants who spam for facestompers, bwg, tarus, etc, you'd see that they might have more of one item than the other. A lot of factors affect this. Maybe I misunderstood the capabilities of the trade logs, but you should be able to see that I am trading away mesos for CS many many times. When I read others' appeals for RWT, I always see GMs ask them for the igns of people who gave them stuff, which is why I thought having just the igns were enough. I didn't know that the tradelogs didn't show you everything.
3. I have definitely been on mini0n for HOURS at a time when I have been stocking up on the CS that you have records of me selling. If you look at the times of when I logged in with the tradelogs of the igns I bought CS from (Vona, myfmmule, dawat, kaninabeh, ladydior, truereligion), you will see that I've been on for hours. You mentioned that I sold a large amount of CS in a 10 day period. There is no way that those 10 days do not show me playing on mini0n for hours at a time. You said that my activity on mini0n is MOSTLY made of few minutes online time, that doesn't mean that ALL of my play times are just a few minutes. I was transferring of mesos and CS for merching which requires me to log in multiple times for a short period of time. This is probably a lot of what you see in your logs because transferring requires a lot of logins, and bossing/spamming only requires a few logins. These short logins are covering up the login times when I am actually on mini0n for hours. Other than that, I am either bossing/fming on mini0n, and farming heartstoppers on 'newflex'. Also, I don't think I am spamming in the fm for more than 1 hour at a time because I'd get bored or run out of mesos. I'd spam for a bit, then go train/boss/dojo, then go back to spamming again for a bit, then set up my shop, etc. I don't sit in the fm ALL day on my main, and I apologize if you thought that is what I meant. I'm not a full time merchant... Again I suggest you look at the login times of when I whispered vona, and traded the players. If it helps, my transaction with 'dawat' and 'kaninabeh' was on Tuesday around 7:06am EST, and one of my transactions with Vona was on Sunday around 9:14pm EST. I've done multiple transactions with all these players.
I've already tried to provide as much information as I can to help with the investigation. Also, the teddy merchant only allows me to sell 4 CS at most before I have to collect the mesos and organize the shop to be able to sell more. This is why you are seeing the many logins that I have. It's because Im constantly logging into my mule to see if anything has sold. My original funds for merching was around 10bil which allowed me to afford roughly 20+ CS at a time, but I can only sell 4 at a time before I relog. I'm not buying 4 cs from fm then selling 4 right away. Im buying in bulk first then selling them. 'mini0n' is my main, you can see that every SS in previous posts of my wealth and of me buying attack gear is on mini0n. How can I only be on for few minutes? I'm literally on mini0n the majority of the time, and the ss and words prove it. Also, if you refer to my LATEST report that SHANE helped me handle, I reported someone for harassment on my character 'p3rvert'. I was chalk boarding on that character. At that VERY same time that I was chalkboarding and reporting the other player, I was ALSO on 'mini0n' with another chalkboard spamming in the fm. If I'm not spamming for an ST, I'm spamming for cs/ws to merch. It makes no sense for me to go thru the hassle of selling them. Also, you banned me because I SOLD 125 CS thruout more than a week, not POSSESSING 125 CS. <<If I was sketchy, the latter would've been true but I merched them legitimately which is why it's not true...I have provided everything I could remember.
I've been patient with my appeal and have never been impolite towards you despite my frustration. Please investigate the log in times of not just the last few days before the ban, because I buy the CS FIRST, then sell... You've unbanned players because even though their stories only had a "possibility" of checking out. There is nothing unusual or impossible here; I hope you can be fair. With all that account activity since corona virus, the gaching I've done, and all those mesos I've started with, I don't think selling that amount of CS is unreasonable especially if that's the only thing I know how to merch. I've addressed your concerns with explanations and I've stuck to them because they're truthful. Hopefully this helps. Thank you.

 

To help you further with your investigation, I have took the time to covert my EST times of some trades with the players mentioned, to UTC time. I traded 'vona' around Mon, May 18, 2020 01:14am. I traded 'dawat' and 'kaninabeh' around Tue, May 19, 2020 11:06am. And myfmmule at around Sat, May 23, 2020 03:29am. These transaction took place WITHIN the 10 days of my selling those CS, and I traded these players MULTIPLE times. I have definitely been on for HOURS on mini0n. I can afford 20+ CS at most and transfer some to 'gotice' to sell. If I’m telling you that I’ve played on minion and even have you specific times ^^ and you still say I didn’t, theres nothing else I can do to fight it...
Consider this: You said that I sold 125 CS. 21 of those I already had from a LONG time ago that I saved up as you can see in my SS. That brings me to around 100 CS. Then I spent 1mil+ NX gaching at shrine, which you can see that I did in my SS with the inventory full of 30%s. That gives me another good amount of CS, I'm not sure how many. The remaining CS was all from merching that I bought with pure mesos, which I gave you igns and times for you to look up. There is nothing unreasonable or unusual here. Everything that I have now is from 4 years of time, effort, and voting.
This is all the possible evidence I can think of to give you. A lot of players wouldn't even be able to recall half as much as I did. I'm really trying my best, and I hope I don't have to wait another week for you to ask me another question that I've already answered. Please refer to post #15 for in depth explanations to your questions^^^. Also, I don't know if it helps, but I also tried selling CS in royals discord fm channel as the name "大Dee" for 480m, after buying them for 450~460. I have NOT done any RWT, duping, account sharing, vote abuse, scamming, etc...
Thank you.

 

Hey.. I know you guys don't like this but I really don't want to wait another week for a response, just to be asked the same questions. I've been banned for 2 weeks already and I've spoon fed all of the explanations and proof that I can think of the help with the case. As I read through the appeal myself, I've already cleared up suspicions reasonably, and I do not see that I have done anything against the TOS. My login durations seem to raise concern the most. As I’ve said, my many short login durations for transferring are covering the longer duration playtimes that I have on my character mini0n. If you look at the UTC times I converted for you for those transactions in my previous post, you will see matching login times and trade transactions with these people. It also requires A LOT more time to sell CS than buying them. Also, in order for me to sell the CS that I was able to afford in bulk, it requires multiple logins for transferring due to max meso limit for shops. There’s just no other explanation for selling those CS other than merching them for profit. Just to emphasize, I bought and sold less than 100CS throughout a period of time; I did not have all of the CS at once...
I understand that the Royals staff have many things to do other than ban appeals, and I appreciate you guys for volunteering to keep the community in order. But on the other hand, I have nothing to do due to the covid-19 lockdown and protest curfews here in New York. I’ve already watched all 12 seasons of Two and a Half Men ever since my ban. Therefore, I hope you can understand my reason to post this, and I hope you can look through my appeal with fairness and professionalism. Thank you.

 

thank you tim. from now on, i will make sure to take screenshots more often.