Berserking

I just found out now im lvl 126 with berserking on lvl 10 that it's on 20% hp. so i'm like wtf. i check pre bb (wich was gms) and it says 40%. so I check the forum here and appparently they follow 0.62 ... in 0.62 dark knights were the most useless class in whole maple. olmost impossible to level up by themselves. everyone get's a boost in 4th while dark knight apparently not.

let's take a hero for example. a hero has more dps with brandish then a dark knight while berserking. so we already kinda left behind wich is ok. but apparently i can't even berserk at lvl 130 at himes, let's do some math.

i got 14k hp at lvl 130, means i have to stay below 4k health. so I have to heal at 1999 with a 2k heal pot to stay in berserking but a dreamy ghost in himes hits 2k~ wich means its mathematically impossible to berserk at himes till lvl 150+ or so unless you hp wash. wtf is up with that?

berserking is the ONLY thing a dark knight got to keep up in dps with all the other classes and we can't use even it. it's even pretty hard to use it on 40% ... 30% means we can start using berserk on lvl 150-160 in himes. no wonder in my guild (boobs) we only got 5 dark knigths and they all between lvl 120-135. the dark knights who are actually playing actively and lvling themselves are the ones who spend billions in hp wash. you gotta be fucking kidding me. i'm new to this server, playing 3-4 weeks. I can't even buy a descent spear lmao.

and don't you even dare to say grind without berserk. that means I keep lvling as a 3th job player while all others got massively increased by their 4th jobs. wich means i have to spend twice the ammount of time to get 1 level and leveling by yourself already getting slow as hell. i'm really going crazy here. can't believe this is still at 30%. guess there are just not enoug dark knights who cares enoug to fight for this small thing. gms changed it to 40% at lvl 20 and 50% at 30 as soon they came to their senses and putted some numbers in a damn calculator.

sorry for my bad language but i'm fed up. give dark knights the capability to atleast grind something with berserk without hp wash and change this tiny thing.

 

Get berserk 20 then 30 when you can
Drk are good class.

 

I do have to agree that playing an unwashed drk can be a huge hassle even to do the most simple things like grinding with zerk.
Ofcourse nobody should expect an unwashed drk to zerk crow but I do have to agree that you're not left with alot of options without any money and no washing as a drk.

 

30 when you can, I can get berserk when i'm 150-160+, so wtf am i suppose to do till then? your basically telling me I have to buy leech till lvl 150-160. well guess what, on lvl 140 + or so I need to buy 4-5 hour leech? so 160m for 1 lvl. really awesome that I have to spend billions to even be able to lvl. even if I want to lvl myself, I can't because it takes even twice as long as it normally should. no wonder there are barely any descent lvl dark knights ...

 

Mecheez i'm not even talking about crow lol? i'm talking about grinding god damn dreamy ghost. I can't even grind dreamy ghost at 130 while zerking, insane!

 

o.0

 

srry, readed it to fast. why are you even talking about crow lol
berserking on bosses comes when your much higher lvl but any dark knight should atleast be able to use berserk on mobs who are 30 lvls lower then they are. even berserking on wolfspider is barely possible like this I think -.- with this situation a 130 dark knight kills a lvl 80 mob (wolfspider) at the same speed as an 100 dk ... gg well played

 

With level 20 skillbook you can Zerk below 40% hp ... Should be possible to zerk but like he said unwashed drk can be a hassle

You can always wash your extra MP.

 

It's actually 40% at lvl 30 here. It was updated in a later version.

 

God the struggle is real thanks for pointing out !

OT: try washing your extra MP.

 

i'm buying a descent spear first and I need to put bils in hp wash before i'm able to zerk at 30%. does it look like any new player on this server is able to hp wash that much? I should be able to zerk at himes,ws,... on lvl 130 with 20 in berserk period. I have the same dmg now as a 100 dk. 80-150 dk is all the same dmg without zerk except the little you get from the extra str but thats it. while all other classes are able to use their 4th job skills, get major boosts and be able to lvl themselves if they choose to. i'm stuck with leeching wich starts to get to expensive now for ea lvl.

god damned, this isn't any rocket science. anyone who is able to use a calculator can calculate that someone with 14-16k hp can't zerk anything with some descent exp.

 

I made an unfunded pally and had 30k HP with hb during 15x. It's a pain but you have to have a plan before you start

Did you try to wear any int while leveling up?

 

You are severely exaggerating the difficulties of a DK. Zerking is "the only way for a DK to keep up"? If you Zerk at HT you can out-DPS every other class for a very good part of the run. If you learn to play your class, Zerking at BF isn't hard at all even if you can't tank a hit. To be honest your suggestion would hold a lot more weight if it was actually a suggestion and not a whiny rant.

Also you think without Zerk DKs are the only class that doesn't get a decent boost from fourth job? Go ask a Marksman about that.

 

Just so you know, this has been brought up before. Not much came of it. There might be skill updates down the road, but it could be a long wait.
http://royals.ms/forum/threads/dark-knight-skills.5020/
http://royals.ms/forum/threads/v86-skill-tables.7268/

 

hp wash is a unnatural thing to maple. barely anyone did it in gms. so no dks were using berserking? yea thats why tiger was the nr one player of gms for such a long time. and a plan you say, you shitting me. so when I join a server, I first have to make a class I dont give a shit about, lvl it to 150-160+, put weeks/months of work in it just to get funded so I can play what I want after. what kind of bullshit is that. nexon figured out that the 30% at 20 for all the lvl 130-160's was crappy as hell. 0.62 was the first launch of the 4th jobs (beta), they barely tested anything descently. so after thousands of fair complaints they looked into it and they realize the 30% was fubar. I don't get why so many ppl are agianst the change, like it would make a dk "op". it's our ONLY extra damage skill we got from all the 4th job. so why the fuck you guys fighting so hard agianst this change? but when your ingame, your constantly using smega to find a damn dark knight to duo pap with or what ever. but barely any left because off this little thing. this thing ppl keep making a fuss about while all new players NEED it or it's game over. this skill is at the moment by far the most useless skill while it should be the most usefull skill for dks. -.-

 

don't you think i've already seen that? but I don't care. It has to happen sometime cause they have lost players cause of this and will still lose more in the future while it's really unfair. i'm not gonna stay around farming and gacha for months to get my hp wash so I can finnaly do something myself. besides everyone knows dark knight gets nothing great from the 4th job. nothing like triple throw, brandish, genesis,... all we get is a buff for our 3th job skills to keep up with the rest. without it the whole 4th job is worthless. this berserking is what brings dark knights damage more equal to the rest.

 

Dark Knights are far from being the weakest class. To be fair, there's so many classes that get outscaled hard once they hit 120, it's not even funny anymore. Paladins, Marksmen, Shadowers... All a DK requires is HP washing. Make a Bishop and you'll be able to make any other class easily.

 

I funded myself and HP washed just fine going from scratch my first time through with my desired class. This isn't GMS, this is a Private Server where NX is free and extremely easy to obtain. The reason why it wasn't as common in GMS is because NX actually had to be bought. I'm not really sure how it's unreasonable to ask you to wash. Even if you added up to 40 base int at the beginning, you'd easily have 6000 extra HP by 130 ( About 10,000 extra with HB ) for an easily obtainable price. You're arguing that you think the % should be higher which is all well and good, but even then you'd still want to get to 30,000 HP considering how easy and beneficial it is to you class.

You went in blind and now you're just upset that you had no solid plan for the future of your character. I agree that it could possibly use a revamp sometime in the future but you personally don't have any of my sympathy with the way you went about saying it in this thread.

 

yea there we have it "all they need is hp washing" > make a bishop. I wanted to make a hs mule so I could level myself or duo ... not level another char to 150, work my ass off for months so I could gear him up while I wanna gear up my dk and play him.

and marksmen was worthless in the old days untill they got ultimate strafe. no one was marksmen, if you ever played gms you knew you had to literraly go trough the whole server to find one.

 

I played GMS, a lot, so yes, I know. And if you played it, you would've known that in v62, Berserk was the way it is here, and then you also could've done a slight bit of research before making one to prevent... well, this.